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<blockquote data-quote="nedjer" data-source="post: 5833982" data-attributes="member: 83796"><p>Hear what you're saying, but it gets a bit lost in the "Quite a few gamers (and geeks in general) are on the autism spectrum", which is a generalisation and (frankly scary) medicalisation of both autism and gaming.</p><p></p><p>It also doesn't seem entirely even-handed to ask for respect for everyone, only to define a sub-class of gamers on the basis of how they smell or look to you. (Long ago I knew a gameplaying geek know at large as 'squalid'. Was he a big-time soap-dodger - no, he had unusually tufty hair which made him look a touch disheveled and he was a bit short).</p><p></p><p>Returning to the medicalisation of gaming and autism - I'm afraid someone's been tugging-your chain on the medieval 'talking to yourself is the first sign of madness' cliche. The modern scientific understanding of most muttering or talking to yourself is that it's a form of auditory review and re-organisation that probably works in much the same way as tactile learning, (writing stuff down), to support the review and re-organisation of knowledge and understanding, i.e. students are told to take notes because it provides a more effective way of remember and organising.</p><p></p><p>The medieval interpretation of this rehearsal and revision is linked to the Inquisition, 'speaking in tongues' and finding ways to attack those who don't conform to authoritarian dogma.</p><p></p><p>The research I came across tentatively suggests that speaking to yourself is possibly associated with intelligent, adaptive people who are unconsciously adopting an efficient learning and coping strategy. No wonder Torquemada was after them <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nedjer, post: 5833982, member: 83796"] Hear what you're saying, but it gets a bit lost in the "Quite a few gamers (and geeks in general) are on the autism spectrum", which is a generalisation and (frankly scary) medicalisation of both autism and gaming. It also doesn't seem entirely even-handed to ask for respect for everyone, only to define a sub-class of gamers on the basis of how they smell or look to you. (Long ago I knew a gameplaying geek know at large as 'squalid'. Was he a big-time soap-dodger - no, he had unusually tufty hair which made him look a touch disheveled and he was a bit short). Returning to the medicalisation of gaming and autism - I'm afraid someone's been tugging-your chain on the medieval 'talking to yourself is the first sign of madness' cliche. The modern scientific understanding of most muttering or talking to yourself is that it's a form of auditory review and re-organisation that probably works in much the same way as tactile learning, (writing stuff down), to support the review and re-organisation of knowledge and understanding, i.e. students are told to take notes because it provides a more effective way of remember and organising. The medieval interpretation of this rehearsal and revision is linked to the Inquisition, 'speaking in tongues' and finding ways to attack those who don't conform to authoritarian dogma. The research I came across tentatively suggests that speaking to yourself is possibly associated with intelligent, adaptive people who are unconsciously adopting an efficient learning and coping strategy. No wonder Torquemada was after them :) [/QUOTE]
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