Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Ashardalon
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="fireinthedust" data-source="post: 5024814" data-attributes="member: 51930"><p>The PCs should have more to go on than just "we hate big A". For the first one, they're just searching ruins.</p><p></p><p>I ran Sunless Citadel, and I like it a lot. Didn't know others were connected, but I can see how SC is a great 4e adventure mod. Goblin encounters in close quarters can be great, and the traps are entertaining. A number of the rooms are there only because the kobolds have a place to live, but if you're going to fight it out there, use them I guess. Some thoughts/suggestions:</p><p></p><p>1) Kobolds are there due to the temple and liking dragons. When the PCs kill off the goblins, you can have Kobold combat encounters when they turn on the PCs.</p><p></p><p>2) Gulthias can be a master vampire, and the Heroic Tier threat; he's not going to be around for this part, tho, and may not get released unless an NPC tells the PCs to destroy the tree to stop the evil from growing. Heck, you could have the adventurers at the bottom be vampire minions, if you like. If they don't burn the tree, or even if they do, maybe Gulthias wants to become organic again, and "grow" vampires or something.</p><p> That said, maybe there's a brother or bride who didn't get turned into a tree, who can take it; then re-use it, with stronger plant-monsters, or an evil dryad vampire spirit of gulthias.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>I had this idea of the old temple being raised up by Big A, for the last stage of the adventure. Epic Tier, y'know? Dozens of dragons pop up and challenge the PCs at that point.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Keep in mind also that there are lots of good uses for dragons rather than as a big bad. Having some dragon guarding a vault the PCs need ot get into is great. I don't like the recent Draconic puppy-dog critters, personally, but classic dragons or ones with character class levels in 3e were fun reading.</p><p></p><p>Red Hand of Doom seems to be as much about fighting an army as it is about fighting a dragon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fireinthedust, post: 5024814, member: 51930"] The PCs should have more to go on than just "we hate big A". For the first one, they're just searching ruins. I ran Sunless Citadel, and I like it a lot. Didn't know others were connected, but I can see how SC is a great 4e adventure mod. Goblin encounters in close quarters can be great, and the traps are entertaining. A number of the rooms are there only because the kobolds have a place to live, but if you're going to fight it out there, use them I guess. Some thoughts/suggestions: 1) Kobolds are there due to the temple and liking dragons. When the PCs kill off the goblins, you can have Kobold combat encounters when they turn on the PCs. 2) Gulthias can be a master vampire, and the Heroic Tier threat; he's not going to be around for this part, tho, and may not get released unless an NPC tells the PCs to destroy the tree to stop the evil from growing. Heck, you could have the adventurers at the bottom be vampire minions, if you like. If they don't burn the tree, or even if they do, maybe Gulthias wants to become organic again, and "grow" vampires or something. That said, maybe there's a brother or bride who didn't get turned into a tree, who can take it; then re-use it, with stronger plant-monsters, or an evil dryad vampire spirit of gulthias. I had this idea of the old temple being raised up by Big A, for the last stage of the adventure. Epic Tier, y'know? Dozens of dragons pop up and challenge the PCs at that point. Keep in mind also that there are lots of good uses for dragons rather than as a big bad. Having some dragon guarding a vault the PCs need ot get into is great. I don't like the recent Draconic puppy-dog critters, personally, but classic dragons or ones with character class levels in 3e were fun reading. Red Hand of Doom seems to be as much about fighting an army as it is about fighting a dragon. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Ashardalon
Top
