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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 8214547" data-attributes="member: 3400">I think one of the reasons 5e did so well at initial launch is because WotC undertook an effort to mend fences. They took a lot of criticism of their 4e marketing as well as the breadth and depth of the changes to the D&amp;D-verse that 4e presented. There were, of course, massive changes to the feel of the game and its play that were obvious on the surface that a lot of contemporary players didn't like (vocally) but there were also a lot of lore content changes all over that rankled contemporary players as well. The marketing efforts, probably in an attempt to be wry and edgy, took sarcastic jabs at 3e and critics, which didn't seem to help. Developer/designer essays, in many cases, just seemed to dig the hole deeper. So the 5e playtest period took some steps back toward getting back to basics and sorting things from there with a lot of surveys and seeking broad input and expressing fewer assumptions about what the players wanted. Whether people look at those as smoke and mirrors or actually useful may vary, but I think they definitely had the impact of quelling critics and I think it helped a lot of 4e critics approach 5e with an open mind.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="billd91, post: 8214547, member: 3400"] I think one of the reasons 5e did so well at initial launch is because WotC undertook an effort to mend fences. They took a lot of criticism of their 4e marketing as well as the breadth and depth of the changes to the D&D-verse that 4e presented. There were, of course, massive changes to the feel of the game and its play that were obvious on the surface that a lot of contemporary players didn't like (vocally) but there were also a lot of lore content changes all over that rankled contemporary players as well. The marketing efforts, probably in an attempt to be wry and edgy, took sarcastic jabs at 3e and critics, which didn't seem to help. Developer/designer essays, in many cases, just seemed to dig the hole deeper. So the 5e playtest period took some steps back toward getting back to basics and sorting things from there with a lot of surveys and seeking broad input and expressing fewer assumptions about what the players wanted. Whether people look at those as smoke and mirrors or actually useful may vary, but I think they definitely had the impact of quelling critics and I think it helped a lot of 4e critics approach 5e with an open mind. [/QUOTE]

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