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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 8445948" data-attributes="member: 6779196">Well, it’s not badwromgfun, it’s just not how the rule is written in the PHB. Of course, simply calling for “Perception” checks works just fine too.Well, first of all it’s procedurally different - a DM doesn’t call for a Strength (Longsword) attack, nor do they just call for a Strength attack that the player can ask to add their Longsword proficiency to. The DM simply calls for an attack roll, the specific rules for which instruct you to add both your Strength (or Dexterity in the case of a ranged or finesse weapon) mod and your proficiency bonus if you’re proficient in the weapon.More importantly though, it matters that attack rolls aren’t checks for the purposes of things that affect one type of roll or the other. Bards with Jack of All Trades can’t add half their proficiency bonus to their attack rolls with weapons they aren’t proficient with because attack rolls aren’t ability checks (though Initiative rolls are, so you can add it to that). A creature affected by the Hex spell for Strength doesn’t get disadvantage on melee attack rolls, nor does a creature affected by the Enhance Ability spell for Strength get advantage on them. Etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 8445948, member: 6779196"] Well, it’s not badwromgfun, it’s just not how the rule is written in the PHB. Of course, simply calling for “Perception” checks works just fine too. Well, first of all it’s procedurally different - a DM doesn’t call for a Strength (Longsword) attack, nor do they just call for a Strength attack that the player can ask to add their Longsword proficiency to. The DM simply calls for an attack roll, the specific rules for which instruct you to add both your Strength (or Dexterity in the case of a ranged or finesse weapon) mod and your proficiency bonus if you’re proficient in the weapon. More importantly though, it matters that attack rolls aren’t checks for the purposes of things that affect one type of roll or the other. Bards with Jack of All Trades can’t add half their proficiency bonus to their attack rolls with weapons they aren’t proficient with because attack rolls aren’t ability checks (though Initiative rolls are, so you can add it to that). A creature affected by the Hex spell for Strength doesn’t get disadvantage on melee attack rolls, nor does a creature affected by the Enhance Ability spell for Strength get advantage on them. Etc. [/QUOTE]

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