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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 172933" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>I enjoyed guide to hell a lot, the treatment of the big A included. I think the 3e default that archdevils and demons can't be sources of evil divine power while gods and concepts can is inconsistent and don't use it in my campaign. I like the plots, lies, and background of Asmodeus in GtH and enjoyed it as a sourcebook. </p><p></p><p>What I did not like of GtH was the Coatl good counterpart and I did not use the false religion tactic in my game but I still enjoyed the book.</p><p></p><p>So Flexor, in your game, do you have ascended mortals like St Cuthbert and Vecna? I think it would make sense for the most powerful devils and demons to ascend, and I would not see a reason to make them less powerful than, say, the orc patron Gruumsh.</p><p></p><p>It is all campaign specific choices for flavor and cosmology so YMMV.</p><p></p><p>However, Information, I agree that it is a pretty safe bet that none of the archfiends (including Asmodeus) will be deities or be able to grant cleric powers directly, at least as written up in BoVD, MM2, and ToH.</p><p></p><p>I believe references to that are in DotF and RttToEE where demon cults go through intermediary gods to provide divine power to their cults. We will have to wait for BoVD for any crunchy benefits they can grant directly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 172933, member: 2209"] I enjoyed guide to hell a lot, the treatment of the big A included. I think the 3e default that archdevils and demons can't be sources of evil divine power while gods and concepts can is inconsistent and don't use it in my campaign. I like the plots, lies, and background of Asmodeus in GtH and enjoyed it as a sourcebook. What I did not like of GtH was the Coatl good counterpart and I did not use the false religion tactic in my game but I still enjoyed the book. So Flexor, in your game, do you have ascended mortals like St Cuthbert and Vecna? I think it would make sense for the most powerful devils and demons to ascend, and I would not see a reason to make them less powerful than, say, the orc patron Gruumsh. It is all campaign specific choices for flavor and cosmology so YMMV. However, Information, I agree that it is a pretty safe bet that none of the archfiends (including Asmodeus) will be deities or be able to grant cleric powers directly, at least as written up in BoVD, MM2, and ToH. I believe references to that are in DotF and RttToEE where demon cults go through intermediary gods to provide divine power to their cults. We will have to wait for BoVD for any crunchy benefits they can grant directly. [/QUOTE]
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