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<blockquote data-quote="The Serge" data-source="post: 178453" data-attributes="member: 4049"><p>Upper Krust:</p><p></p><p>Still don't have DDG?! What's going on in your part of the world? </p><p></p><p>Anyway, this is for anyone who wants to respond, including the usual suspects.</p><p></p><p>I think <em>A Guide to Hell</em> was not a bad book and it was clear that Pramas was spending a considerable amount of time tying up loose ends. What I find interesting about that book is not so much the history (which I think actually has a lot of room to add a lot of information) but the fact that the other Lords or Archdevils are so weak compared to 2ed Pit Fiends. Made little sense, especially when compared to the avatars of the Lords in Dragon 223.</p><p></p><p>At any rate, I think people concerned about cosmology are overreacting with regards to the "overpower" Asmodeus concept. In my campaign world, Asmodeus is an Overpower but he has limited impact on my world and he's not the BBEG. And just because he's an overpower does not mean that he'll automatically be the representative of Evil. While I do maintain that he'd be Prime Evil (mostly because he represents an intellectual, conceptual--Lawful-- aspect of Evil), he's not the only dangerous entity out there. Additionally, the suggestion that he's trapped and limited to his ability to affect things beyond Hell also makes his being an Overpower almost inconsequential.</p><p></p><p>I think for most people, the concept of Asmodeus being an overpower is about the history of the <em>ENTIRE</em> Cosmos, not just one "crystal sphere." I see nothing wrong with Lawful overpwoers, a handful of Greater neutral powers (with the exception of The Lady of Pain) and legions of Intermediate and Greater Chaotic powers because such a concept makes sense within the framework of my cosmology. The fact that the decision was made by Pramas, et al. to keep Asmodeus trapped is a testament to their concern that allowing him to be free in WoTC's official "creation" story would impact home-grown campaigns. </p><p></p><p>At any rate, we'll have to wait until <em>The Book of Vile Darkness</em> comes out. What's the ETA anyway?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Serge, post: 178453, member: 4049"] Upper Krust: Still don't have DDG?! What's going on in your part of the world? Anyway, this is for anyone who wants to respond, including the usual suspects. I think [I]A Guide to Hell[/I] was not a bad book and it was clear that Pramas was spending a considerable amount of time tying up loose ends. What I find interesting about that book is not so much the history (which I think actually has a lot of room to add a lot of information) but the fact that the other Lords or Archdevils are so weak compared to 2ed Pit Fiends. Made little sense, especially when compared to the avatars of the Lords in Dragon 223. At any rate, I think people concerned about cosmology are overreacting with regards to the "overpower" Asmodeus concept. In my campaign world, Asmodeus is an Overpower but he has limited impact on my world and he's not the BBEG. And just because he's an overpower does not mean that he'll automatically be the representative of Evil. While I do maintain that he'd be Prime Evil (mostly because he represents an intellectual, conceptual--Lawful-- aspect of Evil), he's not the only dangerous entity out there. Additionally, the suggestion that he's trapped and limited to his ability to affect things beyond Hell also makes his being an Overpower almost inconsequential. I think for most people, the concept of Asmodeus being an overpower is about the history of the [I]ENTIRE[/I] Cosmos, not just one "crystal sphere." I see nothing wrong with Lawful overpwoers, a handful of Greater neutral powers (with the exception of The Lady of Pain) and legions of Intermediate and Greater Chaotic powers because such a concept makes sense within the framework of my cosmology. The fact that the decision was made by Pramas, et al. to keep Asmodeus trapped is a testament to their concern that allowing him to be free in WoTC's official "creation" story would impact home-grown campaigns. At any rate, we'll have to wait until [I]The Book of Vile Darkness[/I] comes out. What's the ETA anyway? [/QUOTE]
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