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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JohnBrown" data-source="post: 178907" data-attributes="member: 2243">Another explainationHi all,While it is late in this conversation, there was a point that I wanted to bring up.  The question of  (and I paraphrase here) "If Asmodeus isn't a god, how come he hasn't fallen under the thumb of some evil power?" has been brought up several times by several different people.   While your own campaign may vary, I would like to bring up an overlooked "canon" point.  The nine planes of hell are each infinitely big.The 3rd Edition Manual of the Planes states, "The ledge-layer extends outward infinitely, but the circumference of each inner ledge (which opens onto the Pit and the next lower ledge-layer) is finite."  While we are talking about gods and god-like beings here, and while they may be able to grasp the concept of infinity much better than mere mortals, it doesn't change math or physics (which again, according to the Manual of the Planes, also work the same as on the Prime, more or less).If you accept the fact (which you may not, again your campaign may vary <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ), that each of the planes of hell are infinite in size (infinity x 9?, there's a concept <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ), unless Asmodeus, or any other evil god living there is omniscient in your campaign, it is not only possible, it is mathematically probable that that these being are all living on these planes and aren't even aware of each other!  Remember, we are talking about infinite space here.  Sure Asmodeus and his cronies may control the area around the Pit, but who cares?  The plane(s) are infinitely big.  Evil deity X needs more room for all the souls he collected...just spread out.  You only have to "run into" some other major power if you want  to, but why would you want to do that?  There is always more space.Regardless of whether or not Asmodeus is actually a god, would be fairly irrelevant to those beings that we all agree are true gods.  Why you ask?  It is due to the fact that while he may or may not be stronger than other evil gods, we can all agree on the fact that he has access to god-like resources (armies of devils, powerful lieutenants, powerful magics, etc.).  Why waste your own resources fighting over something that's irrelevant?  Want to control more space than Asmodeus?  Just send your forces out and plant your flag.  Want to have more personal power than Asmodeus, just get more worshipers, create some artifacts, etc.  All of these things, and many more, will make evil god X more "powerful" than Asmodeus (and vise versa), without wasting resources or putting themselves in any danger.Anyway, it's something to think aboutJohnBrown</blockquote>

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