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<blockquote data-quote="The Serge" data-source="post: 370822" data-attributes="member: 4049">Thanks!Yes, apparently Baalzebul ruled the Hells at one point, but I don't think this was ever canon.&nbsp; In fact, I do believe that as far as 3ed is concerned, Asmodeus has always ruled Hell... although I don't believe he was ever Ahriman.My myth for Asmodeus allows for the same entity to have always ruled Hell, proving that this being is the epitome of LE, as it's far too wiley and clever to be the victim of a coup.&nbsp; I used Lucifer and Asmodeus as one and the same to reflect the crafty nature of this being.&nbsp; I have a number of names I'm chewing on and will likely allow Ahriman to be one of those names (an idea I had before A Guide to Hell).I will be doing the Celestial rulers, but I will not be using the Eladrin, Guardinals, or Archons.&nbsp; I've always felt that there needed to be only one race of Celestials... the Aasimon.&nbsp; I always thought the inclusion of the other three was a lame attempt to reinforce the idea that there are races in the Planes, rather than cosmic representations of Ideals.&nbsp; To me, one of the &quot;benefits&quot; of Evil lies in its desire to stratify and sunder beliefs to further cause distrust and hate.&nbsp; I don't see the Celestials doing the same thing.&nbsp; So, I don't have all these races.&nbsp; Further, with the possible exception of the Archons, the Eladrins and Guardinals aren't all that original.&nbsp; Eladrins are hyped up Elves and the Guardinals (who should be in the Beastlands rather than Elysium) are just nice Lycanthropes.&nbsp; However, I do have the Virtues of Celestia (who are essentially Arch-Angels), The Four Holy Ones of Elysium, and the Lords of Freedom of Arborea.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Serge, post: 370822, member: 4049"] Thanks! Yes, apparently Baalzebul ruled the Hells at one point, but I don't think this was ever canon. In fact, I do believe that as far as 3ed is concerned, Asmodeus has always ruled Hell... although I don't believe he was ever Ahriman. My myth for Asmodeus allows for the same entity to have always ruled Hell, proving that this being is the epitome of LE, as it's far too wiley and clever to be the victim of a coup. I used Lucifer and Asmodeus as one and the same to reflect the crafty nature of this being. I have a number of names I'm chewing on and will likely allow Ahriman to be one of those names (an idea I had before [i]A Guide to Hell[/i]). I will be doing the Celestial rulers, but I will not be using the Eladrin, Guardinals, or Archons. I've always felt that there needed to be only one race of Celestials... the Aasimon. I always thought the inclusion of the other three was a lame attempt to reinforce the idea that there are races in the Planes, rather than cosmic representations of Ideals. To me, one of the "benefits" of Evil lies in its desire to stratify and sunder beliefs to further cause distrust and hate. I don't see the Celestials doing the same thing. So, I don't have all these races. Further, with the possible exception of the Archons, the Eladrins and Guardinals aren't all that original. Eladrins are hyped up Elves and the Guardinals (who should be in the Beastlands rather than Elysium) are just nice Lycanthropes. However, I do have the Virtues of Celestia (who are essentially Arch-Angels), The Four Holy Ones of Elysium, and the Lords of Freedom of Arborea. [/QUOTE]

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