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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gothmog" data-source="post: 2636657" data-attributes="member: 317">Players that fixate on dark, brooding, tragic assassins that play upon this outcast/misunderstood player concept- maybe you guys are wannabe Vampire players?  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> In all seriousness, I've noticed a lot of this too over the years- it seems to go hand in hand with the people who love playing drow, or "bad ass" characters.  I don't intend for this to sound caustic, but I've had several players in games who insist on playing these types of characters every time, and these players always cause trouble, not due to the character concept so much as their own personalities.  IME, people who love the assassin/Batman/drow characters have big problems with authority, see themselves as outcasts and loners who can't trust the world or other people, MUST look cool at all costs, and don't work well as a group.I know I enjoy play characters who have some similarities to me physically, mentally, or in personality, but with some big twist. (For instance, a warlord named Valdemar who was brash, arrogant, pragmatic to the point of being aloof and basically an all-around bastard- pretty much the opposite of me in temperment- but he was fun).  I've only played one assassin, but he wasn't the type we are talking about here really- a gnoll named Bloody Maw who was a ritualized killer for his pack- he'd stalk his prey for weeks before springing on them, and would always kill by tearing the throat out and then consuming some part of the target as a religious rite to gain some part of that victim's essence (no in-game effect- just one of his beliefs).  He was a hero to his tribe, but was shunned, feared and hunted outside of it.  A fun character for a short-term game, but not for a long-term campaign.  So while I understand some need for escapism, it can be taken too far if thats ALL someone is willing to play or is obsessed with assassins/ninja/drow characters.</blockquote>

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