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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4891987" data-attributes="member: 40961">I don't follow what you're doing, but yes, I was taking the miss effect into account.&nbsp; The miss effect is what rewards you for waiting until longer to use your shroud damage.&nbsp;Think of it this way- on a hit, you do X*Y damage, where X is your shroud damage and Y is the number of rounds you studied.&nbsp; Because you can study and attack in the same round, your choice is between X every round, 2X every other round, 3X every third round, or 4X every fourth round.&nbsp; This doesn't reward waiting, because if you evaluate by damage per round, you get X/1, 2X/2, 3X/3, and 4X/4, ie, X every round no matter what you do.&nbsp; If this were all that was going on, you might as well use shroud immediately at all times.&nbsp;But lets look at the miss damage separately.&nbsp; If you use shroud every round, your miss damage will be 0X.&nbsp; If you use it every other round, its X.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you use it every third round, its 2X.&nbsp; If you use it every fourth round, its 3X.&nbsp; Now divide to get your miss damage per round, and you'll have 0, X/2, 2X/3, and 3X/4.&nbsp; The longer you wait the more you get.&nbsp;I'm not going to do comparisons to a rogue right now because that gets very involved.&nbsp; The rogue can't use bastard swords, for one.&nbsp; And they're likely to have different accuracy levels.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 4891987, member: 40961"] I don't follow what you're doing, but yes, I was taking the miss effect into account. The miss effect is what rewards you for waiting until longer to use your shroud damage. Think of it this way- on a hit, you do X*Y damage, where X is your shroud damage and Y is the number of rounds you studied. Because you can study and attack in the same round, your choice is between X every round, 2X every other round, 3X every third round, or 4X every fourth round. This doesn't reward waiting, because if you evaluate by damage per round, you get X/1, 2X/2, 3X/3, and 4X/4, ie, X every round no matter what you do. If this were all that was going on, you might as well use shroud immediately at all times. But lets look at the miss damage separately. If you use shroud every round, your miss damage will be 0X. If you use it every other round, its X. If you use it every third round, its 2X. If you use it every fourth round, its 3X. Now divide to get your miss damage per round, and you'll have 0, X/2, 2X/3, and 3X/4. The longer you wait the more you get. I'm not going to do comparisons to a rogue right now because that gets very involved. The rogue can't use bastard swords, for one. And they're likely to have different accuracy levels. [/QUOTE]

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