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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 4914219" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>Well, in terms of sheer powergaming, Ninja is probably flat-out worse than a Rogue, and a weak class in general. They're better as NPCs since they can "nova" all their ki pool in a single encounter, but for any lengthy day, you likely won't be able to go invisible enough to make Sudden Strike on par with Sneak Attack.</p><p></p><p>Multiclassing with monk seems like a waste to me. Their AC bonuses just stack level-wise, and you would pretty much need to spend a feat to stack the levels for your ki pool.</p><p></p><p>I like Ninja/Swordsage combos a lot, and I've long since adapting Tome of Battle into my gaming books conisdered 1-2 levels in Swordsage a worthy dip for any roguish class at 9th and 10th HD. But that book's not on your list, so no more on that...</p><p></p><p>Have you considered Ninja/Druid hybrid? Druids have the nice wisdom synergy, get crud for armor anyway (so going unarmored isn't a huge deal), and while you probably wouldn't want too many levels deep into it, the wildshaping*, thousand faces, and such can really help you to be sneaky in whole new ways. Also, Spell Compendium (or Complete Adventurer, which has more powerful versions of the spells, but was "overidden" by SpC) has many low level druid spells of use. Camouflage for hide checks....some other one that adds to hide and move silently in a specified natural terrain type...Spells to gain one animal's senses (like say...blindsense/sight).</p><p></p><p>All I can say is, with 40 point buy, you can have really good stats, don't be afraid of doing a class or combo of classes with some MAD (multiple ability dependency).</p><p></p><p>*Or use the PH2 variant for shapeshifting at level 1 and no need for deep druid level dipping (the fact it costs a swift action, same as your ki pool, kinda blows, though). But I'm not sure if that variant really does squat to help you blend in or disguise yourself in any degree. I mean, it's just so handy to be the enemy commander's horse, or a bird flying overhead...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 4914219, member: 35909"] Well, in terms of sheer powergaming, Ninja is probably flat-out worse than a Rogue, and a weak class in general. They're better as NPCs since they can "nova" all their ki pool in a single encounter, but for any lengthy day, you likely won't be able to go invisible enough to make Sudden Strike on par with Sneak Attack. Multiclassing with monk seems like a waste to me. Their AC bonuses just stack level-wise, and you would pretty much need to spend a feat to stack the levels for your ki pool. I like Ninja/Swordsage combos a lot, and I've long since adapting Tome of Battle into my gaming books conisdered 1-2 levels in Swordsage a worthy dip for any roguish class at 9th and 10th HD. But that book's not on your list, so no more on that... Have you considered Ninja/Druid hybrid? Druids have the nice wisdom synergy, get crud for armor anyway (so going unarmored isn't a huge deal), and while you probably wouldn't want too many levels deep into it, the wildshaping*, thousand faces, and such can really help you to be sneaky in whole new ways. Also, Spell Compendium (or Complete Adventurer, which has more powerful versions of the spells, but was "overidden" by SpC) has many low level druid spells of use. Camouflage for hide checks....some other one that adds to hide and move silently in a specified natural terrain type...Spells to gain one animal's senses (like say...blindsense/sight). All I can say is, with 40 point buy, you can have really good stats, don't be afraid of doing a class or combo of classes with some MAD (multiple ability dependency). *Or use the PH2 variant for shapeshifting at level 1 and no need for deep druid level dipping (the fact it costs a swift action, same as your ki pool, kinda blows, though). But I'm not sure if that variant really does squat to help you blend in or disguise yourself in any degree. I mean, it's just so handy to be the enemy commander's horse, or a bird flying overhead... [/QUOTE]
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