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<blockquote data-quote="epithet" data-source="post: 6674900" data-attributes="member: 6796566">While I agree with garnuk in his interpretation of the rule, I can perhaps help Hriston reconcile his divergent interpretation of the rule with letting the Assassin's feature operate the way it was clearly intended to.Assassin sneaks up on Target and gets surprise. Initiative is rolled. Assassin rolls poorly and is at initiative 14, Target rolls well and is at initiative 18.On round 1, initiative 18, it is Target's turn. Regardless of whether you rule that he &quot;takes&quot; that turn no matter his ability to take an action, combat has not begun. Combat will not begin, in fact, until initiative 14, when the first attack is made by Assassin. Until that point, Target is not aware of Assassin and Assassin can change his mind and move along, and no combat will have occurred.So, even if you must insist that Target has &quot;taken&quot; a turn, you should agree that Target &quot;hasn’t taken a turn in the combat yet,&quot; so the Assassinate feature should still apply.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="epithet, post: 6674900, member: 6796566"] While I agree with garnuk in his interpretation of the rule, I can perhaps help Hriston reconcile his divergent interpretation of the rule with letting the Assassin's feature operate the way it was clearly intended to. Assassin sneaks up on Target and gets surprise. Initiative is rolled. Assassin rolls poorly and is at initiative 14, Target rolls well and is at initiative 18. On round 1, initiative 18, it is Target's turn. Regardless of whether you rule that he "takes" that turn no matter his ability to take an action, [I]combat has not begun[/I]. Combat will not begin, in fact, until initiative 14, when the first attack is made by Assassin. Until that point, Target is not aware of Assassin and Assassin can change his mind and move along, and no combat will have occurred. So, even if you must insist that Target has "taken" a turn, you should agree that Target "hasn’t taken a turn [U]in the combat[/U] yet," so the Assassinate feature should still apply. [/QUOTE]

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