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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 6685233" data-attributes="member: 5143">Technically correct.  Being invisible just lets you make stealth checks even when someone is looking directly at you.  This is because "Stealth" is a combination of trying to move quietly and trying not to be seen.By a completely by the book reading of the rules, if you walk into a room filled with an invisible person and they've never made a Stealth check, you immediately hear them or smell them or detect them in some way because they are currently making no attempt to be quiet.I've ruled in the past that if someone says they are staying completely still while invisible and no one knows they are there that they won't be noticed.  But if they make any attempt to move in any way, they must make a stealth check to avoid being heard.  That isn't technically in the rules but seems like a pretty fair interpretation.This is also correct.  But kind of a weird situation.  Dim Lighting gives disadvantage on perception checks because it's harder to see something than if it was bright out.  Which makes sense.  Though, I've always felt this shouldn't apply to people hiding who already are making a stealth check to avoid being seen.  The fact that they get to stay hidden at ALL is the benefit they get from the dim light.  I assume that the disadvantage only applies to things that aren't actually hiding but might be missed like secret passages and the like.But, once again, a strict reading of the rules says that people in have disadvantage on their perception checks in dim light.  Which means it does create the odd situation that it's better to be in dim light than it is to be invisible.Keep in mind though, that being in Dim Light doesn't allow you to hide.  It allows you to CONTINUE hiding if you're already hidden.  To start hiding you must be completely out of sight.  So you can hide when you are on the other side of a wall from someone and then creep into a room that has dim light all the way up to a person and attack.  But if you are in that room you'd need to exit it, hide, and come back.</blockquote>

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