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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 6685690" data-attributes="member: 6799649">Yep: vulnerability to Assassinate, and you cannot move or act until your first turn is over.Although you are vulnerable to Assassinate only if you are still surprised when that attack hits, there are many possible causes of being unable to move or act. Therefore, 'unable to move/act' is not the same thing as 'surprised'.Also, cause goes before effect, not the other way round. 'Surprise', among other things(!), causes 'unable to move/act'; 'unable to move/act' does not cause 'surprised'; nor is it equal to 'surprised'.You are saying that.But the rules do not.If you speed, you get a fine. But the moment you pay that fine has absolutely nothing to do with when (or if) you stop speeding.If you are surprised, you cannot move/act on your first turn, but the timing of that penalty has nothing to do with when you stop being surprised. You are surprised for as long as you don't notice a threat. Your reaction speed measures how soon you act, when you notice that there is something to react to, it doesn't inform you that there is a threat.Since it says that a creature who doesn't notice a threat is surprised, it kinda does!</blockquote>