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<blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 6692947" data-attributes="member: 6799649"><p>I agree. The issue of whether or not he remains hidden hinges on things like, does he stay in cover? Is there a darkness that the assassin can see through but the victin cannot, etc. What it does <strong>not</strong> hinge on is whether or not he is able to take reactions, nor does whether or not he notices the threat hinge on how fast he is.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, in that example, just like I've described many times in this thread, the victim is no longer surprised as soon as he notices a threat. If he can see the assassin running toward him with a knife, he still takes the 'cannot act/react' penalty that he got for being surprised at the start of combat, but since he rolled a higher initiative and is able to use reactions, he <strong>can</strong> use a reaction against this attack, because he <strong>can</strong> see it!</p><p></p><p>If the attacker shot unseen from cover, then even though the (faster) victim is <em>allowed</em> to take reactions, he cannot react to that attack because he doesn't know about it, unlike the example where the assassin runs into plain sight to attack.</p><p></p><p>Simples. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arial Black, post: 6692947, member: 6799649"] I agree. The issue of whether or not he remains hidden hinges on things like, does he stay in cover? Is there a darkness that the assassin can see through but the victin cannot, etc. What it does [b]not[/b] hinge on is whether or not he is able to take reactions, nor does whether or not he notices the threat hinge on how fast he is. Oh, in that example, just like I've described many times in this thread, the victim is no longer surprised as soon as he notices a threat. If he can see the assassin running toward him with a knife, he still takes the 'cannot act/react' penalty that he got for being surprised at the start of combat, but since he rolled a higher initiative and is able to use reactions, he [b]can[/b] use a reaction against this attack, because he [b]can[/b] see it! If the attacker shot unseen from cover, then even though the (faster) victim is [i]allowed[/i] to take reactions, he cannot react to that attack because he doesn't know about it, unlike the example where the assassin runs into plain sight to attack. Simples. :) [/QUOTE]
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