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<blockquote data-quote="Paraxis" data-source="post: 6695238" data-attributes="member: 13009"><p>When surprise ends doesn't seem to be 100% clear to some people.</p><p></p><p>What is crystal clear is when a character can take reactions, and that is what he was saying.</p><p></p><p><strong><em>If you’re surprised, you can’t move or take an action on your first turn of the combat, and you can’t take a reaction until that turn ends.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>Is the rule for surprise right out of the book, it doesn't get any clearer than that.</p><p></p><p>By the rules.</p><p></p><p>1. No attacks outside of initiative.</p><p>2. At the start of combat everyone involved in the combat rolls for initiative. </p><p>3. Some of those creatures might be surprised, if they are they can't take any actions when their turn comes up in initiative or move, before and during their turn they can't take reactions, immediately after their turn they can now take reactions. </p><p>4. You can surprise someone, and because they roll a higher initiative than you they take a turn before you do and by the time you act they can use reactions like cast shield.</p><p></p><p>None of the above is up for debate because those rules are all clearly spelled out in the game.</p><p></p><p>What 54+ pages of debate are about is when does the surprised character stopped being surprised because that is important to how a single feature of the assassin subclass interacts with all of this, that is all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Paraxis, post: 6695238, member: 13009"] When surprise ends doesn't seem to be 100% clear to some people. What is crystal clear is when a character can take reactions, and that is what he was saying. [B][I]If you’re surprised, you can’t move or take an action on your first turn of the combat, and you can’t take a reaction until that turn ends.[/I][/B] Is the rule for surprise right out of the book, it doesn't get any clearer than that. By the rules. 1. No attacks outside of initiative. 2. At the start of combat everyone involved in the combat rolls for initiative. 3. Some of those creatures might be surprised, if they are they can't take any actions when their turn comes up in initiative or move, before and during their turn they can't take reactions, immediately after their turn they can now take reactions. 4. You can surprise someone, and because they roll a higher initiative than you they take a turn before you do and by the time you act they can use reactions like cast shield. None of the above is up for debate because those rules are all clearly spelled out in the game. What 54+ pages of debate are about is when does the surprised character stopped being surprised because that is important to how a single feature of the assassin subclass interacts with all of this, that is all. [/QUOTE]
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