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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 6696057" data-attributes="member: 6799649">The example situation I used is the very same example you gave me! The example with the 6th level fighter being brainwashed to murder the mayor.You're saying that the DM assumes that the mayor has no chance to notice anything wrong, no chance to react faster if he does. I'm saying that the rules allow this to be played out, and the rules also assume that we are here to play, not that we turn up just to hear a story about how we died and there was nothing we could have done about it.Look, I'm not trying to be horrible to you or make you feel bad. I'm pointing out how bad I'd feel if the DM didn't give me a fair shot at trying to survive this assassination, and also point out that the decision to have the attack take place before the combat begins(???) takes away my fair chance to do something about it, no matter how unlikely. That's why there should be no combat outside of combat(!), and why the rules say that combat takes place in combat rounds.Sure, the DM has total unlimited power to prevent you from making any roll; that doesn't mean that he should. This is why 'ROCKS FALL EVERYBODY DIES' is used as a shorthand to illustrate the inevitable result of the abuse of that power.</blockquote>