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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6697043" data-attributes="member: 67338">Then I don't understand your issue at all...ok, I do that, and have for years...so I guess I;m lost again...but none of my 'no role' examples fall into this category... so I am really confused...OK, again you make up a scene where no one would suggest not rolling, and procide to tell us not to not roll...<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm    :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm    :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" />and this has to do with my PC bard assassin, or the PC barbarian how again???I guess a case could be made that under just the right circumstances that could happen... but lucky for us we have living breathing DMs who can handle corner cases like that...this is BS... I mean really. "You can't react to something you don't see coming" is not comparable to "Lets not roll for this fight you just loose."PCs use the "Declair then act" as much if not MORE then the NPCs... before you are in combat the rules say you can do anything... if that anything does damage then it does... Initiative is for when the question comes up "Who gets to act when" last night we even had a PC flip out (in character) and perform a spell because he thought there was going to be a finght that never happened... so no need for initative, he just bolted forward summoned his sword and cast mage armor... then the woman looked at him funny and made a joke about the falic sword and him premature casting... except it doesn't at all it rewards quick thinking and planning. It makes the PCs way more interested in the game</blockquote>

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