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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mr.E_Danger" data-source="post: 5981448" data-attributes="member: 6687532">I don't have knowledge of past dnd editions, so i could be wrong in the following example, so don't let the argument hinge on that.  As far as the example: the monk class in pathfinder (and possibly other additions) is always lawful.  is it possible to create a monk character that is not lawful?  I would say yes, because depending on the character's past and motivations, actions, and circumstances he could be non-lawful.  Using your quote from earlier, if all the previous editions said that monks had to be lawful, then you would seemingly say to a person looking to make a non lawful monk: "No, it has to be lawful." Because all the previous editions and publishers say so.now to get back to the assassin in particular, my point was that depending on certain circumstances (listed in previous posts) i think a PC could have an assassin that is not evil.  would the majority of assassins most likely be evil? yeah.  Are all of them?  i would say not, and that is all i am saying.  Kaisoku listed a great example of an assassin that could be neutral: an assassin of Pharasma.I don't think that war is a different animal altogether in the case of this "argument" as to whether an assassin is evil or not.  That is one example of a time when an assassin killing someone (as a soldier in a war or under orders from a general/commander/authority) that the kill is a kill and not a murder; and thus not be an act of evil.  Do i think that most assassins would be evil? yes.  Is a neutral assassin walking a slippery slope? yes.  Can an assassin not be evil? i would say yes.we can agree to disagree.</blockquote>

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