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Assassins: Is Neutral okay?
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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 5981988" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>I get the argument, but I'm afraid I just don't buy it. As written, the Assassin PrC relates specifically to joining an organisation dedicated to killing for money. Under those circumstances, I wouldn't relax the alignment restriction even if the specific assassin in question only murders Evil characters.</p><p></p><p>Now, if we re-fluff the class so it's basically just a matter of training in particular areas, then I can certainly see relaxing, or even removing, the alignment restriction - provided the "must kill to become an assassin" requirement also goes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, it does.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay, in this case, the DM would need to make a ruling. Three things to consider:</p><p></p><p>- Most classes with an alignment restriction also have a section on "Ex-XX", discussing what happens when the character no longer has the alignment in question. The Assassin PrC does not. That suggests to me that the character may actually <em>never</em> become an Ex-Assassin, no matter what happens to his alignment - once he's met the requirements and join the class, he's fine.</p><p></p><p>- On the other hand, there's <em>also</em> the general policy that if something (a class, feat, whatever) has prerequisites, if the character later loses those prerequisites for any reason then he also loses the class (or feat, or whatever). In which case, a non-Evil Assassin loses access to all aspects of the PrC, because he no longer qualifies.</p><p></p><p>As I said, the DM would need to make a ruling.</p><p></p><p>FWIW, the ruling that I would make is this: the character retains all existing aspects of his class, but can no longer gain levels as an Assassin - he's no longer a member of the order, so they won't give him any further training, but what he's already learned he keeps.</p><p></p><p>YMMV, of course.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 5981988, member: 22424"] I get the argument, but I'm afraid I just don't buy it. As written, the Assassin PrC relates specifically to joining an organisation dedicated to killing for money. Under those circumstances, I wouldn't relax the alignment restriction even if the specific assassin in question only murders Evil characters. Now, if we re-fluff the class so it's basically just a matter of training in particular areas, then I can certainly see relaxing, or even removing, the alignment restriction - provided the "must kill to become an assassin" requirement also goes. Yes, it does. Okay, in this case, the DM would need to make a ruling. Three things to consider: - Most classes with an alignment restriction also have a section on "Ex-XX", discussing what happens when the character no longer has the alignment in question. The Assassin PrC does not. That suggests to me that the character may actually [i]never[/i] become an Ex-Assassin, no matter what happens to his alignment - once he's met the requirements and join the class, he's fine. - On the other hand, there's [i]also[/i] the general policy that if something (a class, feat, whatever) has prerequisites, if the character later loses those prerequisites for any reason then he also loses the class (or feat, or whatever). In which case, a non-Evil Assassin loses access to all aspects of the PrC, because he no longer qualifies. As I said, the DM would need to make a ruling. FWIW, the ruling that I would make is this: the character retains all existing aspects of his class, but can no longer gain levels as an Assassin - he's no longer a member of the order, so they won't give him any further training, but what he's already learned he keeps. YMMV, of course. [/QUOTE]
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