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Assassins: Is Neutral okay?
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<blockquote data-quote="Traveon Wyvernspur" data-source="post: 5990074" data-attributes="member: 73201"><p>Then this comes down to definitions: What constitutes murder, assassination, and killing?</p><p></p><p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/murder" target="_blank">Murder</a> - Killing another (person usually) with malice aforethought, chararacterized by deliberation or premeditation. To slaughter inhumanly or barbarously.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/kill?s=t" target="_blank">Kill</a> - To inflict or cause death, to murder, to deprive of life in any manner.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/assassinate?s=t" target="_blank">Assassinate</a> - To kill suddenly or secretively, especially a politically prominent person; murder premeditatedly and treacherously. </p><p></p><p>They are all the same, they refer back to each other with Murder being called Killing, Killing being called Murder, and Assassinating being called Killing and Murder. </p><p></p><p>They are the same, the only way you differentiate it is the reasoning behind it and whether it was premeditated or not. So any way you slice it (no pun intended), the in-game or in real life person you kill whether in face to face combat is still someone you killed, murdered, or assassinated. </p><p></p><p>In terms of a TTRPG, the characters are most of the time out to kill and loot stuff, it doesn't matter that they are killing an evil person or creature to do it, they are still murderers who have premeditated that they are going to this specific dungeon or wizard's tower to clear out and kill, murder or assassinate everything in their path to get the stuff (usually magical goodies). </p><p></p><p>We all know that if mechanically you can sneak up and coup de grace an Orc guard with a ranger or rogue you will do it, that is an assassination or murder, you thought it out, you planned it with your party (even if the Paladin is in the party he won't usually say no since he probably doesn't think of the Orc as a person, but rather an evil beast to be put down), and you executed the deed. </p><p></p><p>It's that simple to me. The assassin is just another class in the game that shouldn't be called evil just because his particular skill set is more attuned to silent take downs and killing from positions in the shadows, yeah he'd rather not get caught doing it and he is more cowardly than the fighter who will go toe-to-toe, but that's his preferred means to get the job done.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Traveon Wyvernspur, post: 5990074, member: 73201"] Then this comes down to definitions: What constitutes murder, assassination, and killing? [URL="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/murder"]Murder[/URL] - Killing another (person usually) with malice aforethought, chararacterized by deliberation or premeditation. To slaughter inhumanly or barbarously. [URL="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/kill?s=t"]Kill[/URL] - To inflict or cause death, to murder, to deprive of life in any manner. [URL="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/assassinate?s=t"]Assassinate[/URL] - To kill suddenly or secretively, especially a politically prominent person; murder premeditatedly and treacherously. They are all the same, they refer back to each other with Murder being called Killing, Killing being called Murder, and Assassinating being called Killing and Murder. They are the same, the only way you differentiate it is the reasoning behind it and whether it was premeditated or not. So any way you slice it (no pun intended), the in-game or in real life person you kill whether in face to face combat is still someone you killed, murdered, or assassinated. In terms of a TTRPG, the characters are most of the time out to kill and loot stuff, it doesn't matter that they are killing an evil person or creature to do it, they are still murderers who have premeditated that they are going to this specific dungeon or wizard's tower to clear out and kill, murder or assassinate everything in their path to get the stuff (usually magical goodies). We all know that if mechanically you can sneak up and coup de grace an Orc guard with a ranger or rogue you will do it, that is an assassination or murder, you thought it out, you planned it with your party (even if the Paladin is in the party he won't usually say no since he probably doesn't think of the Orc as a person, but rather an evil beast to be put down), and you executed the deed. It's that simple to me. The assassin is just another class in the game that shouldn't be called evil just because his particular skill set is more attuned to silent take downs and killing from positions in the shadows, yeah he'd rather not get caught doing it and he is more cowardly than the fighter who will go toe-to-toe, but that's his preferred means to get the job done. [/QUOTE]
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