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<blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 5991135" data-attributes="member: 95493">The paladin still has all the tools - smite evil and detect evil - to go kill that evil dragon either way. Usually it is mandate by their order/god/religion to do it. Just because they are being told which target doesn't mean that the target isn't worth killing. In a specific sense the paladin knows and cares the creature is evil (and majorly so) before killing it.You can't say the same about the prospective assassin in this case. The assassin doesn't know or more importantly doesn't care the target is a vampire in disguise. It is really tangential to joining the assassins who the prospect happens to kill. It can't be a good act unless the person killing him knows who it is and is doing it for a good reason, simply doing it to join up by itself isn't a good act.Overall I would have to agree with you, which is why the paladins trying to join their &quot;assassins guild&quot; aren't killing Hitler or Stalin. They aren't killing creatures who happen to be evil. They are killing creatures who embody evil. They are going after the vile the big EVIL creatures, not just a guy who happens to be Evil.If the assassin (the job title not the class title) is killing only EVIL creatures for some holy purpose then that is fine. That is similar to what paladins do, though through different tactics. That is why I agree you can be neutral or even good (possibly) while still being an assassin. That assassin is probably not an Assassin.HOWEVER, if you are someone trying to become the Assassin class and join the Assassins, then you are no longer a good guy doing it for a good reason. There are two evil requirements to join the class. You must be evil and you must do an evil act of killing someone (dare I say murdering someone?) just to join the Assassins.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tovec, post: 5991135, member: 95493"] The paladin still has all the tools - smite evil and detect evil - to go kill that evil dragon either way. Usually it is mandate by their order/god/religion to do it. Just because they are being told which target doesn't mean that the target isn't worth killing. In a specific sense the paladin knows and cares the creature is evil (and majorly so) before killing it. You can't say the same about the prospective assassin in this case. The assassin doesn't know or more importantly doesn't care the target is a vampire in disguise. It is really tangential to joining the assassins who the prospect happens to kill. It can't be a good act unless the person killing him knows who it is and is doing it for a good reason, simply doing it to join up by itself isn't a good act. Overall I would have to agree with you, which is why the paladins trying to join their "assassins guild" aren't killing Hitler or Stalin. They aren't killing creatures who happen to be evil. They are killing creatures who embody evil. They are going after the vile the big EVIL creatures, not just a guy who happens to be Evil. If the assassin (the job title not the class title) is killing only EVIL creatures for some holy purpose then that is fine. That is similar to what paladins do, though through different tactics. That is why I agree you can be neutral or even good (possibly) while still being an assassin. That assassin is probably not an Assassin. HOWEVER, if you are someone trying to become the Assassin class and join the Assassins, then you are no longer a good guy doing it for a good reason. There are two evil requirements to join the class. You must be evil and you must do an evil act of killing someone (dare I say murdering someone?) just to join the Assassins. [/QUOTE]

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