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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 1593275" data-attributes="member: 710">There was a time here in Germany (maybe 10-15 years ago? I can`t remember exactly, I was to young then), where some people said &quot;Soldiers are murderers&quot;, and thus created a great discussion. I can`t remember the exact details, but my take on this: (Note: Though I was in the Military service, I just did it because it was the lesser of two evil - either military service or public service - for the latter I would have had to write a moral reasoning why I didn`t want to go there, I had to search for a job and had to work one month longer - it was lazyness, not moral conviction.): Soldiers are murders. They kill people. It may be there jobs, maybe the have to do it to prevent other murders and rescue innocents, defend the law or whatever. But it doesn`t matter. In the end, they kill people, and killing people is wrong. A soldier doing it will probably recognize it on some level, and it is certainly not fair to him. But the Universe is not fair. And war isn`t fair. War is morally wrong - evil.This doesn`t mean I wouldn`t kill someone in self defence, or if I would have to defend my country against invaders that want to oppress us, remove our rights, I wouldn`t try to fight them. But I would know that it was morally wrong, even if it seems justified and legally okay. Well, but since this is quite a politic topic, I guess I (or we) should stop here. (Maybe it was already to much.)---But back to the Bard/wouldbeassassin.Check the Song &amp; Silence - maybe the Spymaster might also fit his interest. I think it should be mostly compatible with D&amp;D 3.5</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 1593275, member: 710"] There was a time here in Germany (maybe 10-15 years ago? I can`t remember exactly, I was to young then), where some people said "Soldiers are murderers", and thus created a great discussion. I can`t remember the exact details, but my take on this: (Note: Though I was in the Military service, I just did it because it was the lesser of two evil - either military service or public service - for the latter I would have had to write a moral reasoning why I didn`t want to go there, I had to search for a job and had to work one month longer - it was lazyness, not moral conviction.): Soldiers are murders. They kill people. It may be there jobs, maybe the have to do it to prevent other murders and rescue innocents, defend the law or whatever. But it doesn`t matter. In the end, they kill people, and killing people is wrong. A soldier doing it will probably recognize it on some level, and it is certainly not fair to him. But the Universe is not fair. And war isn`t fair. War is morally wrong - evil. This doesn`t mean I wouldn`t kill someone in self defence, or if I would have to defend my country against invaders that want to oppress us, remove our rights, I wouldn`t try to fight them. But I would know that it was morally wrong, even if it seems justified and legally okay. Well, but since this is quite a politic topic, I guess I (or we) should stop here. (Maybe it was already to much.) --- But back to the Bard/wouldbeassassin. Check the Song & Silence - maybe the Spymaster might also fit his interest. I think it should be mostly compatible with D&D 3.5 [/QUOTE]

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