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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1923524" data-attributes="member: 478">I guess you refer to me... I said and meant "usually" does only one opponent have a really high SR (meaning you need to roll a good deal higher than 10 to beat it), when you meet multiple opponents with SR, it's "usually" not so high, but more average or even weak. It's extremely rare IMX to stumble upon a bunch of foes with a high SR, sure it's possible, but it's just not overly common.That's pretty much what I meant... it's good against those single nasty high SR opponents, but against groups, which tend to have a lower SR, too, Spell Penetration still has its merits.I actually had it in my post and then removed it before submitting. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I don't think this is a really noticeable effect, since you need to cast the spell only once. And unless you are of a really, really high level, you simply won't have so many quickened spells prepared. Sure it's one quickened spell less, but I don't think that's so bad, you still have the standard action and thus the really powerful spell, which is far more important.ByeThanee</blockquote>