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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 3626602" data-attributes="member: 3146">My argument is that their introduction to the game later indicates that SR was not initially intended to be largely inconsequential--nor was it initially inconsequential. Only the advent of the orbs and arc of lightning (and to a lesser degree, blast of flame), along with assay resistance made it easily bypassed by many groups. And of that group of spells, I think arc of lightning and the orbs are by far the most significant. Even without assay resistance, the conjurations alone make it relatively easy to bypass SR.But the fact that the conjuration spells already do that doesn't mean that assay resistance won't do it.Yes and no. It is a very flexible spell, but you don't always have the option to summon something that will be useful. For instance, this weekend, I was playing my cleric (who doesn't quite have the flexibility of an arcane summoner, but still has a lot of flexibility (being neutral good). Even so, with two summon monster VIIs prepared, I looked through the list and, when it came to fighting the advanced ice devil or the marilith that our party faced, I realized that there wasn't much of anything on the summon monster list that would be a helpful summon. Everything had either too low an attack bonus or had spell like abilities that would most likely fail against its spell resistance.OK, it doesn't do absolutely nothing for lightning bolt. However, in the cases where you would use assay resistance with a lightning bolt, your caster is much more likely to simply use an orb spell or arc of lightning. Since my experience is that most casters will generally have orbs or an arc of lightning prepared as well as the lightning bolt, fireball, etc, assay resistance generally doesn't increase the use of arc of lightning in practice, even if, in theory, it would benefit.Maybe. Of course, they haven't been consistently over-oomphing everything. For instance, I used to like the vitriolic sphere spell even though it was damage over time. When they de-oomphed it in the spell compendium, that was when I stopped liking it.</blockquote>

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