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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 8324927" data-attributes="member: 53980">That's true, the stake in this proposed system  is equivalent to a half wager (in terms of risk analysis). However, risk analysis isn't the be all end all.If you look at what the mechanic genuinely does, you see that on a failed even roll it does nothing.It would be as if you and I were playing a hand of poker. You win the hand, but then we have to flip a coin to see whether you actually get to keep the pot, or whether we play a second hand to decide the outcome. If you keep winning and the coin flip keeps saying we play another hand, we might have to play a third, fourth, fifth, or even more hands. That's not fun or interesting. It's just stalling out the game and rendering the previous hands meaningless.I could maybe see this having an application in very specific scenarios. You're already climbing and I want you to have both a chance of failing to make progress (because there are hobgoblin archers aiming at you) and a chance of falling. That said, I would either use the total result of the climb check to determine that, or ask for a second climb check if the first failed. The benefit of both of these is that, rather than being up to a coin toss, they both take into account the character's actual skill at climbing when determining whether they stall out or fall on a failed check.</blockquote>