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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8119972" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Yeah, and personally, I've never been able to easily watch other people doing something while I have nothing to do. And if all you consider engagement is being a spectator, then I'm sure you've done quite well in Major League Sports.Not my expeirence. After a while, we just start feeling sorry for the person missing, and trying to encourage them.I was forced there by the captain. If I refused, I was not allowed on the boat, and would have not been able to particiapte in the rest of the adventure. So I resigned to just ignore it, until it became a focus point. The Crazy guy was a plot relevant NPC (betraying the party by automatically slitting the watchman's throat and escaping while we were attacked. Why was he up there while I was in the bilge? No idea), so even if I had decided to murder him instead of just trying to get the DM to move it along, I doubt it would have accomplished anything accept getting my character thrown overboard and me missing the rest of the adventure.Thank you. I am proud of that one moment, because it seemed no one at that table had ever heard of someone not caring if their character lived or died in order to save a random NPC. The rest of the session can burn.It isn't nearly that bad no. But where I'm pushing back here is this idea that repeated failures don't suck for the person involved. Sometimes losing streaks just gnaw away at you, it makes you feel like the success you did get were flukes. And this is why some of us push for that mechanical parity. If we know that at least we are on as good a footing as possible, 16 in our main stat, proficiency, then at the very least we know we've gotten as good of a chance as possible. And I know that it doesn't prevent cold dice. Everyone knows that. But if I can be nervous about my changes to succeed when I have a +6 to the roll, then it feels like a farce to even roll with a -1.</blockquote>

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