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<blockquote data-quote="Ripzerai" data-source="post: 3391567" data-attributes="member: 38324">So many examples of game designers with non-Encyclopedic knowledge of past D&amp;D confusing things!Yes, Astaroth appeared in Dragon #28 as a devil.Yes, Ed Greenwood used the devil from that article in Dragon #91, changing his name to &quot;Gargoth&quot; but retaining Astaroth as an alternate name (separate from the Abyssal lord mentioned in the MMII).Eric Boyd based a deity on Gargoth, rationalizing Gargoth/Gargauth's alternate name by saying that Gargauth killed the Abyssal lord Astaroth, subsuming his portfolio and adding his power to his own.Astaroth is mentioned in the Fiendish Codex I as the dead demon of prophecy.Ari Marmell, unaware of Eric Boyd's work or the MMII/FC1 reference, introduces a third Astaroth.It would be easiest just to assume that this was the vestige of the Abyssal lord Astaroth - just because he had no fiendish allies doesn't mean&nbsp; he didn't have a realm in the Abyss, after all.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ripzerai, post: 3391567, member: 38324"] So many examples of game designers with non-Encyclopedic knowledge of past D&D confusing things! Yes, Astaroth appeared in Dragon #28 as a devil. Yes, Ed Greenwood used the devil from that article in Dragon #91, changing his name to "Gargoth" but retaining Astaroth as an alternate name (separate from the Abyssal lord mentioned in the MMII). Eric Boyd based a deity on Gargoth, rationalizing Gargoth/Gargauth's alternate name by saying that Gargauth killed the Abyssal lord Astaroth, subsuming his portfolio and adding his power to his own. Astaroth is mentioned in the Fiendish Codex I as the dead demon of prophecy. Ari Marmell, unaware of Eric Boyd's work or the MMII/FC1 reference, introduces a [i]third[/i] Astaroth. It would be easiest just to assume that this was the vestige of the Abyssal lord Astaroth - just because he had no fiendish allies doesn't mean he didn't have a realm in the Abyss, after all. [/QUOTE]

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