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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 8413695" data-attributes="member: 58172">In the 5e FR cosmology, it seems like the 4e-ish Elemental Chaos is more like a ring or sphere. It is a border between the Astral and the Elemental.Since, these elements arent in the "Material Plane", they might not be actual matter. They are more like the concept of fire, a thought construct, rather than an actual fire. So this is a kind of fire that exists in the Astral Plane, which is a realm of thought (without matter).These Astral elementals are like a blue print, a conceptual plan, for how to build the Material Plane out of elements. But in the Astral realm of the Elemental Chaos, these elements are still mind rather than matter.</blockquote>