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At 1st level, how powerful would you say PCs are in any edition of D&D?
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<blockquote data-quote="Brother MacLaren" data-source="post: 5489718" data-attributes="member: 15999"><p>Well, a 1st-level PC in Classic is about equal to the NPCs that you meet if you look at the monster section entries for humans (e.g. "Nomad"), and just barely above if you use the "Normal Man" line. PCs don't have superior statistics, maximum HP at first level, or any of the things that 3E PCs get.</p><p></p><p>As to 4E, I haven't played it, but my understanding of the minion concept is that sometimes 1st-level PCs are <strong>FAR</strong> above ordinary orc or kobold warriors. Those enemies drop like flies from one hit, while PCs can withstand several basic attacks and keep going. But that's a difference in the design philosophy of 4E -- you can't compare a PC to an ordinary "in-the-world" orc or kobold, since they don't have any existence off-screen. Orcs exist as obstacles for the PCs and nothing more. Sometimes they are meant to be a big challenge, so they are given more HP, I guess, but other times they are not. I think the question is largely meaningless in 4E as I understand it. Still, if the PCs were to gather the local farmers into a militia to defend against the orc attack, and the DM was forced to stat out "normal people," what would the farmers look like?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brother MacLaren, post: 5489718, member: 15999"] Well, a 1st-level PC in Classic is about equal to the NPCs that you meet if you look at the monster section entries for humans (e.g. "Nomad"), and just barely above if you use the "Normal Man" line. PCs don't have superior statistics, maximum HP at first level, or any of the things that 3E PCs get. As to 4E, I haven't played it, but my understanding of the minion concept is that sometimes 1st-level PCs are [B]FAR[/B] above ordinary orc or kobold warriors. Those enemies drop like flies from one hit, while PCs can withstand several basic attacks and keep going. But that's a difference in the design philosophy of 4E -- you can't compare a PC to an ordinary "in-the-world" orc or kobold, since they don't have any existence off-screen. Orcs exist as obstacles for the PCs and nothing more. Sometimes they are meant to be a big challenge, so they are given more HP, I guess, but other times they are not. I think the question is largely meaningless in 4E as I understand it. Still, if the PCs were to gather the local farmers into a militia to defend against the orc attack, and the DM was forced to stat out "normal people," what would the farmers look like? [/QUOTE]
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