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<blockquote data-quote="Ellie_the_Elf" data-source="post: 2499231" data-attributes="member: 17018"><p>Thanks again to all who've given their input.</p><p></p><p>Another update: I've talked to a couple more of my players and the concensus is that p4 is being loud out of insecurity since he's the newbie in a group that's been together for the better part of three years (and most of us have been friends a lot longer). We'll have a chat about it and give it a little longer, and see how things go..</p><p></p><p>I got an email from p5 about the situation (asking if he'd have to make a new character, campaigning for his psion and complaining about not getting additional roleplay xp for the trouble he caused (!) </p><p></p><p>My reply to him is below- you'll probably recognise a lot of it from the advice I've been given <g></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>____________</p><p></p><p>I've thought long and hard about the whole situation since Monday night.</p><p></p><p>In all honesty, I am extremely unhappy with psionics, now I've seen them in play. I've tried to give them a chance- you might not think 2 weeks is a chance, but the state of the group at the moment is worrying me and I think it's getting to the stage where I do something or the group as a whole suffers. I'm not saying this is down to you/psionics (There aren't many members of the group I'm particularly happy with after monday, myself included), and I have already discussed what I perceive as problems with some of the group. I plan to discuss things with the others too pre-monday. On monday night I went home ready to quit due to various things. Now I'm calmed down a little I don't want to do that, but I do need to take steps to regain control of the game.</p><p></p><p>Which means the psionics will have to go, at least for now. There is no need to change the character too drastically if you don't want to since as far as I know the stat/skill set is similar to a wizard anyway, and you were talking for a while about making an abjurer. I'm not picking on you, and I hope you'll understand that but I think we're all too unfamiliar with the psionics rules right now for one to be a viable character option without causing arguments/hurt feelings. </p><p></p><p>Then there's the whole 'unhinged elven telepath coward' thing, as you put it. You do remember how we talked about heroic characters before the game, don't you? Right now I'd consider your psion to be chaotic neutral, possibly even chaotic evil - which falls short of the good alignment requirement whatever it happens to say on your character sheet. Perhaps what just happened could serve as a wake up call to the character, and inspire him towards more good deeds, and to try to put his past behind him and learn to be a hero? I like your whole concept and think we could do some very interesting stuff relating to your background- but the sociopathic tendancies are proving a bit of an obstacle at present. </p><p></p><p>I hope you'll understand I'm trying to work with you here, not just lay down the law. I don't want anyone to leave the group because they're not having fun, or playing a character they don't enjoy. As things are at the moment, we can work through most of this in game. I'd rather do it that way than have you end up being forced to roll a new character because the rest of the party won't adventure with the current one any more. Hopefully you agree that's a better way to do things. And I really am sorry about the psionics.</p><p></p><p>_________________________________</p><p></p><p>Apologies for the length of this post, I'll update you again when I get a response...</p><p></p><p>Ellie <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ellie_the_Elf, post: 2499231, member: 17018"] Thanks again to all who've given their input. Another update: I've talked to a couple more of my players and the concensus is that p4 is being loud out of insecurity since he's the newbie in a group that's been together for the better part of three years (and most of us have been friends a lot longer). We'll have a chat about it and give it a little longer, and see how things go.. I got an email from p5 about the situation (asking if he'd have to make a new character, campaigning for his psion and complaining about not getting additional roleplay xp for the trouble he caused (!) My reply to him is below- you'll probably recognise a lot of it from the advice I've been given <g> ____________ I've thought long and hard about the whole situation since Monday night. In all honesty, I am extremely unhappy with psionics, now I've seen them in play. I've tried to give them a chance- you might not think 2 weeks is a chance, but the state of the group at the moment is worrying me and I think it's getting to the stage where I do something or the group as a whole suffers. I'm not saying this is down to you/psionics (There aren't many members of the group I'm particularly happy with after monday, myself included), and I have already discussed what I perceive as problems with some of the group. I plan to discuss things with the others too pre-monday. On monday night I went home ready to quit due to various things. Now I'm calmed down a little I don't want to do that, but I do need to take steps to regain control of the game. Which means the psionics will have to go, at least for now. There is no need to change the character too drastically if you don't want to since as far as I know the stat/skill set is similar to a wizard anyway, and you were talking for a while about making an abjurer. I'm not picking on you, and I hope you'll understand that but I think we're all too unfamiliar with the psionics rules right now for one to be a viable character option without causing arguments/hurt feelings. Then there's the whole 'unhinged elven telepath coward' thing, as you put it. You do remember how we talked about heroic characters before the game, don't you? Right now I'd consider your psion to be chaotic neutral, possibly even chaotic evil - which falls short of the good alignment requirement whatever it happens to say on your character sheet. Perhaps what just happened could serve as a wake up call to the character, and inspire him towards more good deeds, and to try to put his past behind him and learn to be a hero? I like your whole concept and think we could do some very interesting stuff relating to your background- but the sociopathic tendancies are proving a bit of an obstacle at present. I hope you'll understand I'm trying to work with you here, not just lay down the law. I don't want anyone to leave the group because they're not having fun, or playing a character they don't enjoy. As things are at the moment, we can work through most of this in game. I'd rather do it that way than have you end up being forced to roll a new character because the rest of the party won't adventure with the current one any more. Hopefully you agree that's a better way to do things. And I really am sorry about the psionics. _________________________________ Apologies for the length of this post, I'll update you again when I get a response... Ellie :) [/QUOTE]
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