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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 8600367" data-attributes="member: 6696971">A post to try to give people something to engage with that hews to the lead post:Some Scholar's Guide quotes and my take on what they mean:In quote 1 and 3 above, Luke and Thor lay out the players orientation to play and the character's orientation to their existence.  "Excel" and "exploring your character" is clearly oriented to Narrativism and the constituent pieces of the game's engine + the integrated whole + the GM's role in quote 2 (you're playing the antagonism that directly challenges the survive/excel/prosper in quote 1). At the very least, the orientation of "excel" + "exploring your character" + GM role to play the antagonism to the player's "excel" and "exploring your character" + game engine/reward cycles that facilitate orients play toward a Narrativism bent.On Adventure 1:So we don't have anything directly akin to Dogs in the Vineyards' backstory/initiation scene (where players author the kicker and we find out who they are in relation to it), but we do have character building that does all of the other stuff that Dogs does.  And then, just like in Dogs, the GM creates a Town that opposes all the stuff that the players have evinced as important to their characters (and addresses the game's fundamental premise). So my way of looking at Adventure 1 and Dogs Town 1 is that they aren't particularly different.  You're getting play started by cutting right to the action.  But that cutting to the action isn't disconnected from what I've quote above.  The players have flagged what is important to them in PC build and you're building Adventure 1 with this in mind.  I don't think its remotely a must to use Luke/Thor's prefabbed Adventure for Adventure 1.  I would say that advice is overwhelmingly intended for 1st time GMs/players to the game.  Making your own Map/Adventure becomes rote once you've got your feet under you.Then, just like Dogs' Town 2/3/4 (etc), Adventure 2/3/4 will be an outgrowth of accreting fictional parameters + premise + evinced PC build stuff that you're supposed to test (including/especially that excel stuff that will be entail Belief and Relationships embedded in PC build).My final thought on this is as I've said prior about the impact of/orientation to Prep in TB:Adventure design instruction/procedures in Torchbearer is extremely robust.  Once you understand each part, each part's importance, the ethos (themed adventure site + consideration for Camp sites + multiple points of ingress/egress and multiple solutions to each situation/obstacle leading to a dynamic Adventure milieu) and how it all fits together, running Adventures on the fly, again, becomes rote for Short and Medium Adventures (again, I can never imagine Long Adventures of 20+ Obstacles EVER being a thing without fairly laborious prep...but my games have seen Long Adventures as the serious, serious exception).Thoughts?</blockquote>

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