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<blockquote data-quote="Tarek" data-source="post: 3773032" data-attributes="member: 6661">What I see happening is that the further D&amp;D gets away from its tactical wargaming roots, the further it gets from being D&amp;D.The &quot;resource management&quot; game is important to D&amp;D, it is part of its core identity. The more resources you give the player characters in the rules, the further it gets from its roots.3e was not that radical a departure from 2e or from 1e, except that it presumed, and indeed relied on, the player characters having a certain level of magic items, which increased (geometrically?) with level. Further, a lot of the 3.5 splatbooks added rules which turned the game into a superheroic variant. As in &quot;I'm invulnerable!&quot; or &quot;I can shoot lasers from my eyes!&quot; or &quot;I can deflect unerring Magic Missiles with my little finger!&quot;I did like playing 3.5, but... The way hit points and damge have been padded gives it a considerably different feel from 1st or 2nd. The numbers are larger, but they mean less; a high level fighter can still take down a Storm Giant in a round, something that required a few rounds in 1e.Now it seems that 4e is going further in the wuxia/superheroic direction.It's like Saga Edition... it's still a d20 variant, but it's not the same game. I anticipate, when all is said and done, that I could not really call 4e &quot;D&amp;D&quot; anymore.But we'll see.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tarek, post: 3773032, member: 6661"] What I see happening is that the further D&D gets away from its tactical wargaming roots, the further it gets from being D&D. The "resource management" game is important to D&D, it is part of its core identity. The more resources you give the player characters in the rules, the further it gets from its roots. 3e was not that radical a departure from 2e or from 1e, except that it presumed, and indeed relied on, the player characters having a certain level of magic items, which increased (geometrically?) with level. Further, a lot of the 3.5 splatbooks added rules which turned the game into a superheroic variant. As in "I'm invulnerable!" or "I can shoot lasers from my eyes!" or "I can deflect unerring Magic Missiles with my little finger!" I did like playing 3.5, but... The way hit points and damge have been padded gives it a considerably different feel from 1st or 2nd. The numbers are larger, but they mean less; a high level fighter can still take down a Storm Giant in a round, something that required a few rounds in 1e. Now it seems that 4e is going further in the wuxia/superheroic direction. It's like Saga Edition... it's still a d20 variant, but it's not the same game. I anticipate, when all is said and done, that I could not really call 4e "D&D" anymore. But we'll see. [/QUOTE]

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