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<blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 4682338" data-attributes="member: 14506">I'm going to try and reiterate this. If at-wills are removed several things happen.--&gt; I think we touched on all of the effects. Some are very beneficial and there are a couple of stumbles. In my opinion there are more benefits than stumbles.So here is a list:1. Basic attacks become the vanilla attack as opposed to at-wills.2. Different weapons can be used without becoming sub-par options to a classes at-will powers.3. STR and DEX become more important in character creation.4. Basic attacks are less tactical but speed up real time grind.I think that is it. Making such a bold move as removing at-will attacks, would require some form of gimme for the players. I think that a good trade off would be taking those two at-wills that PCs get at first level and giving them two bonus encounter powers (so 3 at 1st level). By RAW, in a 12 round combat you have 1 encounter and 11 vanilla at-wills and possibly a daily (of course the number of at-wills goes down as you level up). If you have 3 1st level encounter powers, you now only make 9 vanilla basic attacks and have 3 encounter and 1 daily. Again, this may speed up real time grind.I suppose to get your head around this second part you have to agree with the premises that at-wills cut down options.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sadrik, post: 4682338, member: 14506"] I'm going to try and reiterate this. If at-wills are removed several things happen. --> I think we touched on all of the effects. Some are very beneficial and there are a couple of stumbles. In my opinion there are more benefits than stumbles. So here is a list: 1. Basic attacks become the vanilla attack as opposed to at-wills. 2. Different weapons can be used without becoming sub-par options to a classes at-will powers. 3. STR and DEX become more important in character creation. 4. Basic attacks are less tactical but speed up real time grind. I think that is it. Making such a bold move as removing at-will attacks, would require some form of gimme for the players. I think that a good trade off would be taking those two at-wills that PCs get at first level and giving them two bonus encounter powers (so 3 at 1st level). By RAW, in a 12 round combat you have 1 encounter and 11 vanilla at-wills and possibly a daily (of course the number of at-wills goes down as you level up). If you have 3 1st level encounter powers, you now only make 9 vanilla basic attacks and have 3 encounter and 1 daily. Again, this may speed up real time grind. I suppose to get your head around this second part you have to agree with the premises that at-wills cut down options. [/QUOTE]

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