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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 4683677" data-attributes="member: 14506">Yes, if you gain nothing from a basic attack and you gain some minor boon from an at-will why would you use a basic attack unless forced to? A wizard shoots magic missiles why would he ever dream of throwing a shuriken? That is just dumb right. But if Magic missile was a 4d4+INT encounter power and he had no at-will powers. Then he might need to throw a shuriken now and again.Strangely, by removing at-wills all of the maneuvers that you just cited become more powerful - as players add more stat points to STR and DEX. An interesting side effect.Additionally "tricks" from page 42 of the DMG and other "at-will" basic maneuvers could be used more with that open space (the rounds freed up from sheepishly at-willing your best at-will).</blockquote>