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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 9067020" data-attributes="member: 6787503">That sounds like the same way I play 5E. Do you think there is anyone whose gameplay includes players actually casting spells or actually searching the walls of the room in which they’re playing for secret doors (and hoping to find one)? Even if such people existed, what relevance do you think that would have to the differences between things actual D&D players might say and do at actual D&D tables? For example, the difference between saying (and imagining) their character casts a spell and marking an expended spell slot on their character sheet, or the difference between saying (and imagining) their character searches a dungeon wall for secret doors and rolling a Search check.I agree with this, but then you say this:But you didn’t “just” express a preference. You claimed there’s "not really" a difference between a fictional action undertaken by a fictional character (e.g. casting a spell) and an actual action undertaken by an actual person (e.g. making a check). If true, that claim would effectively deny any basis for having a preference for players to describe their character’s actions rather than to state they’re engaging directly with the game’s mechanical resolution process, because the difference between those two things is somehow “not real”. That posters on this thread who’ve expressed a preference are somehow deluded. Are you now walking back that claim to only apply to your game? Because that wasn’t how you initially framed it. I’m also not sure what it means for something that’s otherwise real to be not real only in your games. Do you mean the difference isn’t real in your gaming group, or do you mean it isn’t real in your game world? The latter seems obvious considering the players and things they say and do at the table aren’t real from the perspective of the fiction. Is that what you mean?Don’t you mean by what the player says? I mean, how do we know what the character says unless the player says something?So now other people’s preferences are “weird”. I guess that’s an improvement from completely denying they have any reason to exist. If the difference makes no difference to you, then you would choose multiple (maybe all) options on the poll.</blockquote>

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