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<blockquote data-quote="CruelSummerLord" data-source="post: 4134432" data-attributes="member: 48692"><p>So, let me get this straight, based on Egres's replies and elaborations: </p><p></p><p>-The guy who was killed was just an average Joe NPC, who probably had a family, and wasn't posing any sort of threat to the cleric at all. </p><p></p><p>-The cleric is ready and willing to do an act like this again. He won't apologize. </p><p></p><p>-He refused to resurrect the NPC he killed. </p><p></p><p>This is nothing less than cold-blooded murder of an innocent bystander. There's no guarantee that this guy posed any threat whatsoever, and the cleric refused to resurrect him. </p><p></p><p>Exactly why won't the cleric bring him back? </p><p></p><p>IMO, Hieroneous would interpret this as a very grave sin. Normally, such a cowardly, reprehensible act, made all the worse by refusing to resurrect an innocent person, would result in being cast out of the faith, but it could be mitigated by his past good service. </p><p></p><p>I would have Hieroneous immediately strip him of all his divine benefits, and leave him unable to regain even the most basic powers until he atoned for his sin. Hieroneous would give him a chance to redeem himself, but if he refuses, the divine paladin would cast him out. If the cleric wants to join another faith, he can, but he will never be able to return. </p><p></p><p>Like Wolfwood and others have suggested, it's important to let the player know that you're not passing judgement on him personally, just interpreting Hieroneous's dogma. But this is something I too would refuse to budge on-I'm role-playing Hieroneous, and if the god and the priest obviously clash with one another, then they'd be better off going their separate ways. I'd let the player know that he could find another god to worship, one more in tune with his beliefs. A neutral god sounds like an ideal fit for this guy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CruelSummerLord, post: 4134432, member: 48692"] So, let me get this straight, based on Egres's replies and elaborations: -The guy who was killed was just an average Joe NPC, who probably had a family, and wasn't posing any sort of threat to the cleric at all. -The cleric is ready and willing to do an act like this again. He won't apologize. -He refused to resurrect the NPC he killed. This is nothing less than cold-blooded murder of an innocent bystander. There's no guarantee that this guy posed any threat whatsoever, and the cleric refused to resurrect him. Exactly why won't the cleric bring him back? IMO, Hieroneous would interpret this as a very grave sin. Normally, such a cowardly, reprehensible act, made all the worse by refusing to resurrect an innocent person, would result in being cast out of the faith, but it could be mitigated by his past good service. I would have Hieroneous immediately strip him of all his divine benefits, and leave him unable to regain even the most basic powers until he atoned for his sin. Hieroneous would give him a chance to redeem himself, but if he refuses, the divine paladin would cast him out. If the cleric wants to join another faith, he can, but he will never be able to return. Like Wolfwood and others have suggested, it's important to let the player know that you're not passing judgement on him personally, just interpreting Hieroneous's dogma. But this is something I too would refuse to budge on-I'm role-playing Hieroneous, and if the god and the priest obviously clash with one another, then they'd be better off going their separate ways. I'd let the player know that he could find another god to worship, one more in tune with his beliefs. A neutral god sounds like an ideal fit for this guy. [/QUOTE]
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