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<blockquote data-quote="BoldItalic" data-source="post: 6821541" data-attributes="member: 6777052"><p>I'm not sure why you are disagreeing? Your formula is exactly equivalent to mine, with the terms rearranged algebraically ! Except that if the total is exactly 21, neither bonus is better than the other, which you haven't allowed for.</p><p></p><p>But you're right to pick out the case where the roll to hit (your target value) is 1 (or lower); in that case a bonus to hit is pointless even if the expected damage is more than 20. It could happen; a 20th-level PC with a STR of 20 attacking a goblin with a +3 greatsword is an extreme case but it does fall into that category. On the other hand, it also falls into the 'one-shot' category, so the upshot is, the goblin is dead 95% of the time regardless of any additional hit or damage bonus anyway.</p><p></p><p>An interesting, possibly counter-intuitive feature of the formula (yours or mine, doesn't matter) is that a bonus to hit <u>and</u> damage cancels out and doesn't affect the decision. (It affects DPR, obviously, but it doesn't affect the answer to the question). So it doesn't matter what Str or Dex adjustment the creature has, or if he has a magic weapon, the plusses and minuses cancel out. Weird, isn't it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BoldItalic, post: 6821541, member: 6777052"] I'm not sure why you are disagreeing? Your formula is exactly equivalent to mine, with the terms rearranged algebraically ! Except that if the total is exactly 21, neither bonus is better than the other, which you haven't allowed for. But you're right to pick out the case where the roll to hit (your target value) is 1 (or lower); in that case a bonus to hit is pointless even if the expected damage is more than 20. It could happen; a 20th-level PC with a STR of 20 attacking a goblin with a +3 greatsword is an extreme case but it does fall into that category. On the other hand, it also falls into the 'one-shot' category, so the upshot is, the goblin is dead 95% of the time regardless of any additional hit or damage bonus anyway. An interesting, possibly counter-intuitive feature of the formula (yours or mine, doesn't matter) is that a bonus to hit [u]and[/u] damage cancels out and doesn't affect the decision. (It affects DPR, obviously, but it doesn't affect the answer to the question). So it doesn't matter what Str or Dex adjustment the creature has, or if he has a magic weapon, the plusses and minuses cancel out. Weird, isn't it? [/QUOTE]
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