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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 6133286" data-attributes="member: 14506">I agree, I really like the idea of the six saves but I dont think for whatever reason they will get implemented properly. We are a year in and this is such a basal thing that it ought to have been resolved early on so I dont have the confidence that they will do anything about addressing the problems of ill defined saves. It is a hard design choice and whichever way they go I am sure it will make some people uncomfortable, but just leaving it as is makes people uncomfortable too. Perhaps they have made their design decision and I just dont like it. lol.Perhaps it is good to define their design decision. STR saves are underused and areas where they could be put to use are not being utilized, such as grappling. Then INT/WIS/CHA saves having no clear delineation. Sometimes compulsion effects are resisted with CHA sometimes WIS, look up each spell effect to determine which. In my opinion, WIS should convert completely to perception and awareness, moving all remnants of willpower to CHA. Very clear delineation there. INT is a wasted save. Disbelieve should be an INT save in my opinion. Figure something out INT save, notice something WIS save, and resist something mental CHA save.</blockquote>