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Message: <blockquote data-quote=".5 Elf" data-source="post: 5748865" data-attributes="member: 90290">Well it's for monsters I have since found out. I asked this to gain opinions to help someone else out with an encounter they are building.More accurately it is for Apes. Quoting his latest response which shared more info on what he is working on:Wow, thanks a lot guys. I was trying not to give away too much information as i'm trying to build a module but i'm referring to an encounter in a thick forest against apes/su etc. Monsters that have speed 6-7 and climb speed of the same. There would be two full levels to the encounter, the treetops and the ground. The su ambushers grab PCs and carry them off. Also the monsters can climb without provoking op attacks. So having these howling monkeys attack you from the branches above and sometimes carrying you back up the tree (if you escape the grab you may very likely just fall to the ground). This is the general gist of where my question comes from. If this helps you come to a consensus any better. I'm not a very experienced DM which is why I wanted to get other peoples oppinions. Also, one of the attacks is to shift their speed, grabbing a character somewhere in the shift...could this jump/fall attack count as shifting?Are Tackles really covered in 4e anymore? Would it just be a grapple or? What are the issues when landing on someone and ending your turn there?So now that we know it's monkeys attacking from on high ... well to me that changes things a little. I would argue that bonuses may full well apply.What say you EN World?</blockquote>

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