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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Johs" data-source="post: 6415677" data-attributes="member: 6784266">They CAN hide whenever opponent's cannot see them, but as soon as they move (to be able to attack the enemy) they lose their hiding place. So whats the point?You can hide when you have 100% coverage... but then you can't attack, unless they come to you. So you cannot use this to hide/attack/hide/attack "in combat". The special race and the skulker feat CREATE the scenario where YOU only need light obscurement (shadows, mist, a desk) to hide, and you can STILL SEE your opponent, so you can still attack them.The lightfoot halfling can SPECIFICALLY hide right there in combat, with only the coverage from another person. But i agree that the enemy 'still knows hes there' they just cannot detect him, giving him Advantage on his attacks. But they'd certainly prioritize the pair of them with a fireball.This is the conditions for every normal PC to be in stealth in every normal situation. By your example the Lightfoot Halfling would have no benefit.I totally agree, he's found a 'hiding spot' but this doesn't let him ATTACK every turn with Advantage, because he cannot leave total cover without exposing himself (without the Skulker perk). Imagine round after round, the rogue comes from behind the total cover, fires at you, and returns behind his total cover (and hides). Can you attack him? No. Is he in total cover? Yes. Is he hiding? Yep, so even if I ran over there, he can elude me if he's very stealthy.However, on each of the rogue's attacks, when he comes back out from behind the desk and fires at me, are you 'surprised' ? Are you being 'attacked by an unseens attacker?' Is the rogue 'in his hiding place?' No. So effectively, total cover lets you HIDE, and it's 'in combat' but this is not at all what I was discussing when I say "Hide In Combat" I'm talking about effectively Hiding + Firing + Hiding + Firing, to gain Advantage from stealth.This requires a Lightfoot Halfling, a Wood elf in mist, or Skulker "the perk that lets you do it". Even with these things, you need SOME qualification (light obscurement) for instance, it needs to be dark. In a dark room in a dungeon, or behind some furniture, the Skulker has no obscurement. On a bright beach in the sun, the Skulker has no obscurement.The Lightfoot Halfling can ALWAYS hide behind his buddy though, even in broad daylight.</blockquote>

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