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<blockquote data-quote="Johs" data-source="post: 6415682" data-attributes="member: 6784266">Perfect examples!! Okay, you're playing paintball, you're 30' away from your friend. He lies down in 'light vegetation' where he could make a nice sniper's nest, BUT YOU CAN SEE HIM DO IT. Are you saying he has the qualifications he needs to 'hide' while an opponent has visibility of him? Of course not, hes right there, and you shoot him.Now, if you weren't there when he 'hide' you'd have a classic sniper in brush scenario. He's right there, he's quite visible, but you're not aware of him and he's not moving (hiding spot) and he'll get to shoot at you from hiding.The SKULKER does get to be 30' away from you, and lie down in the bushes, and you go WOAHHHH where did he go!? Because thats the POINT of the feat.Confusing Stealth and 'Hiding' again. Everyone can sneak around in a jungle, and get Advantage on their opening attack on opponents who dont see you. Once a fight in the jungle breaks out, (without getting TOTAL concealment) you cant go &quot;HIDE&quot; and duck behind a tree, and expect the enemies to not know you're behind that tree. They know you're there, they can 'detect' you, you can't &quot;Hide&quot; as an action. You get coverage... but otherwise you're implying that cover = hiding, as long as you waste your action / cunning action, and it doesn't. Otherwise the Skulker Feat would be pointless, and Feats are supposed to be very potent.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Johs, post: 6415682, member: 6784266"] Perfect examples!! Okay, you're playing paintball, you're 30' away from your friend. He lies down in 'light vegetation' where he could make a nice sniper's nest, BUT YOU CAN SEE HIM DO IT. Are you saying he has the qualifications he needs to 'hide' while an opponent has visibility of him? Of course not, hes right there, and you shoot him. Now, if you weren't there when he 'hide' you'd have a classic sniper in brush scenario. He's right there, he's quite visible, but you're not aware of him and he's not moving (hiding spot) and he'll get to shoot at you from hiding. The SKULKER does get to be 30' away from you, and lie down in the bushes, and you go WOAHHHH where did he go!? Because thats the POINT of the feat. Confusing Stealth and 'Hiding' again. Everyone can sneak around in a jungle, and get Advantage on their opening attack on opponents who dont see you. Once a fight in the jungle breaks out, (without getting TOTAL concealment) you cant go "HIDE" and duck behind a tree, and expect the enemies to not know you're behind that tree. They know you're there, they can 'detect' you, you can't "Hide" as an action. You get coverage... but otherwise you're implying that cover = hiding, as long as you waste your action / cunning action, and it doesn't. Otherwise the Skulker Feat would be pointless, and Feats are supposed to be very potent. [/QUOTE]

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