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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6416128" data-attributes="member: 2011">I do not interpret the phrase &quot;You can't hide from a creature that can see you.&quot; to mean &quot;You can't hide from a creature that can possibly see you.&quot;.I interpret the phrase &quot;You can't hide from a creature that can see you.&quot; to mean &quot;You can't hide from a creature that sees you.&quot;.I opine that the wording is just poor. Now, someone might state that I am making up a house rule and that's fine if someone does. I just think that the game is fun if PCs can hide behind 1/2 cover, 3/4 cover, total cover, light obscurement and heavy obscurement with various chances of success pre-NPC spotting them, rather than they can only hide behind total cover and heavy obscurement because the first interpretation of this sentence means that in every other case, at least one body part is sticking out and always making them visible.With my interpretation of this sentence, a PC can often hide before combat and get an advantaged attack in either the surprise round or round one. After that, they can no longer hide shy of special abilities or the perfect storm of a scenario. The vast majority of the time, a PC can only hide if they stay hidden and they were not spotted before hiding.A more literal interpretation of that sentence does not sound fun to me. Obviously, YMMV. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/glasses.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="B-)" title="Glasses&nbsp; &nbsp; B-)" data-shortname="B-)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6416128, member: 2011"] I do not interpret the phrase "You can't hide from a creature that can see you." to mean "You can't hide from a creature that can possibly see you.". I interpret the phrase "You can't hide from a creature that can see you." to mean "You can't hide from a creature that sees you.". I opine that the wording is just poor. Now, someone might state that I am making up a house rule and that's fine if someone does. I just think that the game is fun if PCs can hide behind 1/2 cover, 3/4 cover, total cover, light obscurement and heavy obscurement with various chances of success pre-NPC spotting them, rather than they can only hide behind total cover and heavy obscurement because the first interpretation of this sentence means that in every other case, at least one body part is sticking out and always making them visible. With my interpretation of this sentence, a PC can often hide before combat and get an advantaged attack in either the surprise round or round one. After that, they can no longer hide shy of special abilities or the perfect storm of a scenario. The vast majority of the time, a PC can only hide if they stay hidden and they were not spotted before hiding. A more literal interpretation of that sentence does not sound fun to me. Obviously, YMMV. B-) [/QUOTE]

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