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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 4958370" data-attributes="member: 71571">You have reason to believe an invisible creature might be in that room, in those squares.&nbsp; So you target the creature (as per the rules), then guess the squares it might be in (as per the rules) and apply your attack.&nbsp; You roll the dice, and if the square you guess is wrong you miss the creature, but you are not told whether it is because you guessed poorly or because you failed the attack roll.But this is important:&nbsp; You -miss- the creature.&nbsp; As per the rules.&nbsp;You have reason to believe there is one.&nbsp; It is -reasonable- to attack it, and you will miss that creature.The difference is actually 'I have reason to believe he's around' and 'I have no reason to believe there is an enemy around.'That difference means the world when the action is 'Attack that guy.'No, it's reliant on the -performance- of that attack.&nbsp; But do not be fooled into thinking it is not reliant on the attack just because it doesn't say -Hit- or -Miss-.A path feature is not the same as a power that requires a target.&nbsp; In this instance, a -path feature- is doing the damage, and it is not targetted anyways.&nbsp; So how is this in any way the same as a targetted power?Powers with the attack type of Personal have you as a target, as per the rules.&nbsp; Thusly, you have satisfied the targetting requirements of this power and can use it without a problem.You're getting to caught up on this 'attack roll' thing.&nbsp; You -should- be concerned with the -target- requirement.&nbsp; The power -clearly- says you need one before the teleport.&nbsp; It even has a handy 'Target:' entry.Your lack of understanding of what a target is for a power doesn't negate that simple unequivocal fact.We're not talking about an area attack, nor a close attack, nor an ability that says 'All foo in foo'.&nbsp; All creatures in area -can- be zero creatures.&nbsp; However 'One creature' cannot be zero creatures.1 &lt;&gt; 0.Math.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 4958370, member: 71571"] You have reason to believe an invisible creature might be in that room, in those squares. So you target the creature (as per the rules), then guess the squares it might be in (as per the rules) and apply your attack. You roll the dice, and if the square you guess is wrong you miss the creature, but you are not told whether it is because you guessed poorly or because you failed the attack roll. But this is important: You -miss- the creature. As per the rules. You have reason to believe there is one. It is -reasonable- to attack it, and you will miss that creature. The difference is actually 'I have reason to believe he's around' and 'I have no reason to believe there is an enemy around.' That difference means the world when the action is 'Attack that guy.' No, it's reliant on the -performance- of that attack. But do not be fooled into thinking it is not reliant on the attack just because it doesn't say -Hit- or -Miss-. A path feature is not the same as a power that requires a target. In this instance, a -path feature- is doing the damage, and it is not targetted anyways. So how is this in any way the same as a targetted power? Powers with the attack type of Personal have you as a target, as per the rules. Thusly, you have satisfied the targetting requirements of this power and can use it without a problem. You're getting to caught up on this 'attack roll' thing. You -should- be concerned with the -target- requirement. The power -clearly- says you need one before the teleport. It even has a handy 'Target:' entry. Your lack of understanding of what a target is for a power doesn't negate that simple unequivocal fact. We're not talking about an area attack, nor a close attack, nor an ability that says 'All foo in foo'. All creatures in area -can- be zero creatures. However 'One creature' cannot be zero creatures. 1 <> 0. Math. [/QUOTE]

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