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<blockquote data-quote="FireLance" data-source="post: 4959326" data-attributes="member: 3424">Actually, I think the bit about requiring a target is a red herring. The &quot;Target&quot; entry on page 218 of PH2 states: If a power directly affects one or more creatures or objects, it has a &quot;Target&quot; entry, specifying whom and what the power affects.In this context, the &quot;Target&quot; entry is informational, not prescriptive. The &quot;Target&quot; entry tells you what the power affects directly; it is not a requirement for using the power. Furthermore, the text of &quot;Legitimate Targets&quot; on page 40 of DMG1 states:When a power has an effect that occurs upon hitting a target - or reducing a target to 0 hit points - the power functions only when the target in question is a meaningful threat.Hence, it would appear that the DMG1 prohibition is only against allowing the characters to enjoy the benefits of &quot;Hit&quot; entries, or any benefits that trigger when a target is reduced to 0 hit points, when the target is not a legitimate threat. Most &quot;Effect&quot; entries do not fall into either of these categories.In fact, the description of &quot;Effect&quot; on page 219 of PH2 states:Anything that appears in an &quot;Effect&quot; entry occurs when you use the power, whether or not you hit with it, if it is an attack power.Since the &quot;Target&quot; entry does not mean that you are required to attack a target in order to use the power, and since the DMG1 prohibition is against enjoying the benefit of &quot;Hit&quot; entries and not &quot;Effect&quot; entries if the target is not a legitimate target, and since the &quot;Effect&quot; entry of a power occurs when you use the power, regardless of whether or not you hit with it, if it is an attack power, I would say that you can gain the benefit of the &quot;Effect&quot; entry of a power without needing to attack a target, even if the power has a &quot;Target&quot; entry of &quot;One creature&quot; or &quot;One enemy&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FireLance, post: 4959326, member: 3424"] Actually, I think the bit about requiring a target is a red herring. The "Target" entry on page 218 of PH2 states: [INDENT]If a power directly affects one or more creatures or objects, it has a "Target" entry, specifying whom and what the power affects.[/INDENT]In this context, the "Target" entry is informational, not prescriptive. The "Target" entry tells you what the power affects directly; it is not a requirement for using the power. Furthermore, the text of "Legitimate Targets" on page 40 of DMG1 states: [INDENT]When a power has an effect that occurs upon hitting a target - or reducing a target to 0 hit points - the power functions only when the target in question is a meaningful threat.[/INDENT]Hence, it would appear that the DMG1 prohibition is only against allowing the characters to enjoy the benefits of "Hit" entries, or any benefits that trigger when a target is reduced to 0 hit points, when the target is not a legitimate threat. Most "Effect" entries do not fall into either of these categories. In fact, the description of "Effect" on page 219 of PH2 states: [INDENT]Anything that appears in an "Effect" entry occurs when you use the power, whether or not you hit with it, if it is an attack power.[/INDENT]Since the "Target" entry does not mean that you are required to attack a target in order to use the power, and since the DMG1 prohibition is against enjoying the benefit of "Hit" entries and not "Effect" entries if the target is not a legitimate target, and since the "Effect" entry of a power occurs when you use the power, regardless of whether or not you hit with it, if it is an attack power, I would say that you can gain the benefit of the "Effect" entry of a power without needing to attack a target, even if the power has a "Target" entry of "One creature" or "One enemy". [/QUOTE]

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