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<blockquote data-quote="eamon" data-source="post: 4966121" data-attributes="member: 51942">On the other hand, during practice, you're actually concentrating on that particular technique, and focused on making it work, and aren't distracted by the needs of a bunch of allies, the burning arrow sticking out of your chest, keeping your defenses up while you do it, etc.&nbsp; Also, if you're performing such a stunt as a one off action, you're probably a bunch less tired to boot than you would be if you used it towards the tail-end of a combat.D&amp;D doesn't account for any of these issues in the name of simplicity.&nbsp; This is no different.&nbsp; You either perform the power or you can't - and requiring &quot;your heart&quot; to be in it is a pretty lame excuse for a DM to make - when exactly is your heart in it - when you miss a minion in an easy fight?&nbsp; Micromanaging the PC's abilities to fit the DMs schedule smacks of railroading.&nbsp; Sure, you can find some excuse to forbid it in any particular scenario - but that holds for all kinds of actions.&nbsp; If the PC has a power with a side effect that triggers regardless of the target, and regardless of whether the target is even hit, presumably that power isn't very dependant on said target - so if the player wants to use it, let him, unless there's some good reason not too.&nbsp; Annoyance at the fact that it replicates a utility power isn't a particularly good reason - rather that just goes to show that the effect is essentially a common, non-gamebreaking effect.&nbsp; Thus, interference in the power's function thus opens up a huge grey area for the DM to adjudicate without actually much affect game balance, while simultaneously interfering with the players control over his character.Before I do that, it'd better be necessary for game balance or common sense.&nbsp; Clearly that's not the case here.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="eamon, post: 4966121, member: 51942"] On the other hand, during practice, you're actually concentrating on that particular technique, and focused on making it work, and aren't distracted by the needs of a bunch of allies, the burning arrow sticking out of your chest, keeping your defenses up while you do it, etc. Also, if you're performing such a stunt as a one off action, you're probably a bunch less tired to boot than you would be if you used it towards the tail-end of a combat. D&D doesn't account for any of these issues in the name of simplicity. This is no different. You either perform the power or you can't - and requiring "your heart" to be in it is a pretty lame excuse for a DM to make - when exactly is your heart in it - when you miss a minion in an easy fight? Micromanaging the PC's abilities to fit the DMs schedule smacks of railroading. Sure, you can find [I]some[/I] excuse to forbid it in any particular scenario - but that holds for all kinds of actions. If the PC has a power with a side effect that triggers regardless of the target, and regardless of whether the target is even hit, presumably that power isn't very dependant on said target - so if the player wants to use it, let him, unless there's some good reason not too. Annoyance at the fact that it replicates a utility power isn't a particularly good reason - rather that just goes to show that the effect is essentially a common, non-gamebreaking effect. Thus, interference in the power's function thus opens up a huge grey area for the DM to adjudicate without actually much affect game balance, while simultaneously interfering with the players control over his character. Before I do that, it'd better be necessary for game balance or common sense. Clearly that's not the case here. [/QUOTE]

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