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<blockquote data-quote="Milieu" data-source="post: 9499745" data-attributes="member: 7041560">In 3e, number of attacks was like this, and I think there are good reasons for reverting that.I think there's something to be said for simplifying those things, like having flat speed increases instead of having a bunch of slightly different bespoke free movement class abilities, but for some people that IS the game. In 3e, people would complain about &quot;dead levels&quot;; as in, levels where the only thing that changes is some numbers going up, and you don't get a shiny new feature. Likewise, in combat, activating your special ability that gives you free extra movement feels more like you're doing something cool, even if a flat speed increase would have been just as effective.But the flip side of this is if everyone has a bunch of different complicated special abilities, combat slows down. If every round of combat takes half an hour, you really want a lot of options to do cool things, because if you just swing your sword and miss, you feel bad, like you've wasted a bunch of time. Plus, it gives you more tactical options to think about while you're waiting for your next turn. If rounds take 5 minutes, it doesn't matter as much if you don't get to a cool thing every time.So, yeah, if you simplify enough class features, spells, feats, and so on that combat tends to go a lot more quickly, I might prefer it (especially if I'm the DM). But I think it's a hard sell for a lot of current D&amp;D players.But even I, someone who thinks the complaints about &quot;dead levels&quot; were too exaggerated and would generally prefer a simpler version if done well, have to admit that I'd much rather find a +1 flametongue that glows blue in proximity to moles (both literal and figurative) than a &quot;boring&quot; +4 long sword. So why shouldn't that argument apply to character levels too? A +2 sword is boring but a +1 paladin level is fine? I don't know.In general extra damage is better for keeping combat fast than extra attacks, so my answers for these examples may differ.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Milieu, post: 9499745, member: 7041560"] In 3e, number of attacks was like this, and I think there are good reasons for reverting that. I think there's something to be said for simplifying those things, like having flat speed increases instead of having a bunch of slightly different bespoke free movement class abilities, but for some people that IS the game. In 3e, people would complain about "dead levels"; as in, levels where the only thing that changes is some numbers going up, and you don't get a shiny new feature. Likewise, in combat, activating your special ability that gives you free extra movement [I]feels[/I] more like you're doing something cool, even if a flat speed increase would have been just as effective. But the flip side of this is if everyone has a bunch of different complicated special abilities, combat slows down. If every round of combat takes half an hour, you really want a lot of options to do cool things, because if you just swing your sword and miss, you feel bad, like you've wasted a bunch of time. Plus, it gives you more tactical options to think about while you're waiting for your next turn. If rounds take 5 minutes, it doesn't matter as much if you don't get to a cool thing every time. So, yeah, if you simplify enough class features, spells, feats, and so on that combat tends to go a lot more quickly, I might prefer it (especially if I'm the DM). But I think it's a hard sell for a lot of current D&D players. But even I, someone who thinks the complaints about "dead levels" were too exaggerated and would generally prefer a simpler version if done well, have to admit that I'd much rather find a +1 flametongue that glows blue in proximity to moles (both literal and figurative) than a "boring" +4 long sword. So why shouldn't that argument apply to character levels too? A +2 sword is boring but a +1 paladin level is fine? I don't know. In general extra damage is better for keeping combat fast than extra attacks, so my answers for these examples may differ. [/QUOTE]

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