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Attempt at Improving/Balancing the Druid Shapeshifter varient
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<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 4215084" data-attributes="member: 13966"><p>Not going to do a serious analysis of the stuff right now, but, a few things to mention -</p><p></p><p>Earthglide is just plain better than the mobility form's burrowing. You don't list any speed changes for the earth or fire forms, so it can be assumed earth form would use the character's normal base speed. So it'd be 30 feet of earthglide speed for a human druid as opposed to 20 feet of burrowing speed. You need to specify if the different elemental forms have different movement speeds (as it is, you only address flight speed for air form and swim speed for water form; you don't even say what their base land speed is, for example).</p><p></p><p>I think it'd make more sense if each form gave different stat adjustments, since I really don't think each form, regardless of size, provided the same amount of strength and such; taking a ratlike predator/stalker form should not make the druid just as strong as a polar bear slayer form, nor should it make them just as dextrous (or rather, it should make them much more dextrous than the slayer form).</p><p></p><p>I don't know why Nifft suggested letting the druid keep getting some shapeshift improvements based on caster level instead of actual druid level. Wizards multiclassed into PrCs don't keep getting wizard bonus feats, and fighters multiclassed into PrCs don't keep getting fighter bonus feats, and so on and so forth, so why should a druid keep advancing in all but their most minor of class features (thousand faces, venom immunity, etc.) when multiclassing into a prestige class that never originally advanced wild shape?</p><p></p><p>I don't know if stalker form is really better than slayer form just from sneak attack; it only gets one attack to apply those extra dice to, each round, after all. The slayer gets multiple attacks each round. But, maybe it does make sense to reduce the stalker's Sneak Attack by one die (right when it's gained at 8th-level) only because stalker form gets those sneaky, trippy, and sensory extras.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 4215084, member: 13966"] Not going to do a serious analysis of the stuff right now, but, a few things to mention - Earthglide is just plain better than the mobility form's burrowing. You don't list any speed changes for the earth or fire forms, so it can be assumed earth form would use the character's normal base speed. So it'd be 30 feet of earthglide speed for a human druid as opposed to 20 feet of burrowing speed. You need to specify if the different elemental forms have different movement speeds (as it is, you only address flight speed for air form and swim speed for water form; you don't even say what their base land speed is, for example). I think it'd make more sense if each form gave different stat adjustments, since I really don't think each form, regardless of size, provided the same amount of strength and such; taking a ratlike predator/stalker form should not make the druid just as strong as a polar bear slayer form, nor should it make them just as dextrous (or rather, it should make them much more dextrous than the slayer form). I don't know why Nifft suggested letting the druid keep getting some shapeshift improvements based on caster level instead of actual druid level. Wizards multiclassed into PrCs don't keep getting wizard bonus feats, and fighters multiclassed into PrCs don't keep getting fighter bonus feats, and so on and so forth, so why should a druid keep advancing in all but their most minor of class features (thousand faces, venom immunity, etc.) when multiclassing into a prestige class that never originally advanced wild shape? I don't know if stalker form is really better than slayer form just from sneak attack; it only gets one attack to apply those extra dice to, each round, after all. The slayer gets multiple attacks each round. But, maybe it does make sense to reduce the stalker's Sneak Attack by one die (right when it's gained at 8th-level) only because stalker form gets those sneaky, trippy, and sensory extras. [/QUOTE]
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