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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 369848" data-attributes="member: 3146">Well, it's a little confusing (are all summonings Truename summonings? The text seems to indicate that you need to know a creature's True Name to summon it but the separate info on Truename summonings argues against that possibility).Also the effective CR increase for an effect of the monster's summoning lasting longer than the spell--does that apply to the monster (really here like a calling) or the monsters targets (monster isn't really here).It's complex too--there are a lot of factors that would go into deciding whether or not it is balanced.Most monsters, for instance have abilities which could be more useful than their CR indicates--for instance Formian workers ability to work together to cast Cure Moderate Wounds (IIRC) or the Avoral Guardinal's ability to Lay on Hands and activate True Seeing at will. It's not entirely clear whether the &quot;lingering effects&quot; effective CR increase properly accounts for these abilities. (It would account for the CMW and the Lay on Hands but not for the Guardinal's True Seeing ability or a lantern archon's Aid at will ability (since Aid grants temporary hit points instead of healing).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 369848, member: 3146"] Well, it's a little confusing (are all summonings Truename summonings? The text seems to indicate that you need to know a creature's True Name to summon it but the separate info on Truename summonings argues against that possibility). Also the effective CR increase for an effect of the monster's summoning lasting longer than the spell--does that apply to the monster (really here like a calling) or the monsters targets (monster isn't really here). It's complex too--there are a lot of factors that would go into deciding whether or not it is balanced. Most monsters, for instance have abilities which could be more useful than their CR indicates--for instance Formian workers ability to work together to cast Cure Moderate Wounds (IIRC) or the Avoral Guardinal's ability to Lay on Hands and activate True Seeing at will. It's not entirely clear whether the "lingering effects" effective CR increase properly accounts for these abilities. (It would account for the CMW and the Lay on Hands but not for the Guardinal's True Seeing ability or a lantern archon's Aid at will ability (since Aid grants temporary hit points instead of healing). [/QUOTE]

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