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<blockquote data-quote="TimeOut" data-source="post: 4289218" data-attributes="member: 68543">I like the attribute system. It may be a remnant of the past, but it is something iconic and inherently D&amp;D. I don't like the inflation of the stats, a stupid practice that started with 3e. When you heard of great characters with a 17 or 18 in one stat in the times before 3e, you could imagine a rare and true hero (and someone who got really lucky with his dice).Nowadays a character is &quot;unoptimized&quot; if he has not two 18s at character creation. I tried to downgrade the scores to older levels, but the math kinda assumes that you take overly good attributes.But at last 4e tries to rectify this by saying that all PC are special heroes.Yes, but they give a guideline for people to base their initial imaginations on. More important: This is not a simulation, its a game. So perhaps you should treat the attribute scores the same as hit points. A general number that is the sum of many parts, all condensed for abstract gameplay reasons.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TimeOut, post: 4289218, member: 68543"] I like the attribute system. It may be a remnant of the past, but it is something iconic and inherently D&D. I don't like the inflation of the stats, a stupid practice that started with 3e. When you heard of great characters with a 17 or 18 in one stat in the times before 3e, you could imagine a rare and true hero (and someone who got really lucky with his dice). Nowadays a character is "unoptimized" if he has not two 18s at character creation. I tried to downgrade the scores to older levels, but the math kinda assumes that you take overly good attributes. But at last 4e tries to rectify this by saying that all PC are special heroes. Yes, but they give a guideline for people to base their initial imaginations on. More important: This is not a simulation, its a game. So perhaps you should treat the attribute scores the same as hit points. A general number that is the sum of many parts, all condensed for abstract gameplay reasons. [/QUOTE]

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